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IQ is absolute nonsense that tells you literally nothing about intelligence or anything of the like.
It's a very good measure if you want to predict how well people will do on IQ tests.
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I think their entry requirements are doing exactly what they're supposed to.
The problem is that intelligence, even if we could measure it correctly, doesn't and shouldn't imply what a person knows, nor their experiences and the wisdom that they carry.
Someone can be learned with a low IQ. Someone can be wise and similarly low IQ. In the same way, someone with a high IQ can be unwise.
The problem with having only one individual metric for a group which believes themselves to compose the smartest people, is that they're arrogant. I know plenty of people who are so extremely intelligent that I am certain that they could be a part of Mensa; yet, they are not. When they looked into it, they decided it would be unwise to become a member, given the requirements and the attitudes of, and about, the group.
Hell, there's a decent chance I could get in. I've never tried and I don't care to, for all the same reasons, so I would never know if I could "make it" or not.
Their arrogance and hubris is their undoing.
Mensa is for people who grew up in gifted programs being told that they will achieve greatness just because of the one test they scored hight on, and then they amounted to nothing, so they need a place where they can tell each other that they are unsuccessful only because they are so much smarter than everyone else around them.
High IQ people who manage to do something with their life usually have more to be proud of than an IQ test they took decades ago.
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Apparently ultra-high-IQ people like to use comma splices too.
Probably a language thing too. In German, for example, comma splices are grammatically correct.
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As far as I can tell, most people out there have expectations about high IQ people which are straight out of Hollywood films and wholly unrealistic, so best just leave then with whatever de facto impression of brightness they have about you than mention a number and trigger the "Mental Superman" expectations.
Also going around parading your IQ falls straight into the rule "the more a person brags about some great personal quality, the less strong it is" - if you're really that bright, brave, strong, beautiful, confident and so on, there is no need to mention it since it's generally obvious to others.
Also going around parading your IQ falls straight into the rule “the more a person brags about some great personal quality, the less strong it is”
Or it's your only quality. The main reason to join Mensa is that you haven't accomplished anything better since the IQ test you took as a youth.
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Ok, so there is a pattern to this, and it has nothing to do with IQ per se.
It has everything to do with political alignment. And it’s a multi-variant association (1. booty v. boobs, and 2. race / ethnicity / religion).
I’ll use US-centric political terminology here.
Hear me out:
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Men who prefer big healthy asses tend to lean left/Democrat/liberal/progressive. Men who prefer big boobs tend to lean right/Republican/conservative/fash.
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Men who are willing to date outside their own race / ethnicity tend to be more progressive than those who prefer to stay within their own race / ethnicity (although progressives can happily find partners within their own ethnic group, too; whereas conservative almost always look within their own ethnicity first).
So, an appreciation for big booty Latinas signifies a. someone who leans left (booty), and b. a progressive willing to date outside their own race (assuming he’s not also Latino).
A progressive / Democrat / liberal / lefty can also date PAWGs, big booty Black women, etc. and be perfectly happy.
A Republican will only date someone within their ethnicity 95%+ of the time (some exceptions exist, but it’s relatively rare), and they ALWAYS prefer big mommy milkers, caring very little, or naught at all, for booties.
So there you go. This is 100% anecdote, but one day, I guarantee, the research and science will back me up on this, as soon as someone conducts it.
In the meantime, think about all the straight men you know in your life, and think about their partners. You’ll begin to notice the pattern. Some exceptions, sure, but a pattern nonetheless.
As of yet inconclusive: whether or not “horseshoe theory” applies to any of this. I’ll need more samplings from Leftist authoritarians to compare against Left-liberals, Left-libertarians, and Left-anarchists. More data needed.
wrote last edited by [email protected]whereas conservative almost always look within their own ethnicity first
Funnily enough, I don't really see that happen. At least in my group of friends, the ones with the Filipino wives (and other wives from far away) are usually very conservative. They are then also very happy to talk badly about her family, her relatives and people from her country in general, but "she's one of the good ones".
Maybe it's due to the fact that they can't find a local woman who'd accept them, and that way they get a wife with very conservative values who's also happy to talk badly about her family/relatives/people.
(Also, the fact that it's illegal for Filipinos to get a divorce, with the only exception being if they are married to a foreigner and that foreigner starts the divorce process outside of the Philippines might be seen as a bonus by these guys.)
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Obfuscate your intelligence? Being a reddit mod sounds like it's part of the plan, then.
Oh snap, you're right. It's like a 200 IQ move.
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IQ is absolute nonsense that tells you literally nothing about intelligence or anything of the like.
Don't let you convince yourself of something just because you want to believe it's true. IQ is not an objective measurement of intelligence, but it isn't completely useless either.
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And over-identifying woth it is something arrogant shit heads who are easy to con do.
Unlike me. I'm better than that.
Wpuld you like to join my new society of people who are two smart to show off their IQ? You get a cool badge you can show people
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What's mensa
wrote last edited by [email protected]Another word for college cafeteria in german.
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If you happened to have an unusually high IQ, why you would you choose to join Mensa, or be a moderator on Reddit for that matter?
The smartest thing you can do is obfuscate your level of intelligence, not brag about it. That's just how you end up doing more work and getting blamed by everyone around you.
wrote last edited by [email protected]Eh, intelligence is fluid and the whole concept of a single IQ score is broken. Someone with a high IQ can be real-world dumb and someone bad at school math can become a genious engineer. And both can be equally good or bad at politics. It's all just skills. What matters is mental flexibility (how well you halves are connected) and a healthy image of self and others.
As long as you try to keep a flexible viewpoint and to experience new things now and then, you're doing more for your skull muscle than most.
Edit: ok, training your visual-conceptual imaginative power seems to be beneficial overall.
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As a big booty latino I feel both interested and offended by this.
Also, don't take our big booty latinas pls. We need them for <reasons>.
I'm still wondering what mensa means.. I thought it was a like a flat hill.
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I don't get why something like Mesa even exists. Like, what even is the moment where pulling out your Mensa card is a good idea?
Assuming you are inteligent, you should know that flashing a card from a gatekept "clever people" club will probably not impress many people, just like you should recognize that the test you did doesn't mean shit and IQ is not a good way how to measure people.
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It's a very good measure if you want to predict how well people will do on IQ tests.
It gives you a good indication of their mental speed and memory.
It is poor at measuring specific abilities or wisdom.
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It's my impression that people tend to be more attracted to the unusual, so if you've grown up surrounded by big booty latinas, they're not as appealing as otherwise.
wrote last edited by [email protected]When people tell me they like people with brown eyes (as someone with brown eyes) I have always presumed they are lying but just want to flatter me. It's a stupid thing on my end I'm sure, but my brain still does it
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The answer is yes
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I don't get why something like Mesa even exists. Like, what even is the moment where pulling out your Mensa card is a good idea?
Assuming you are inteligent, you should know that flashing a card from a gatekept "clever people" club will probably not impress many people, just like you should recognize that the test you did doesn't mean shit and IQ is not a good way how to measure people.
At a guess? Smart people like validation too; and are just as vulnerable to manipulation that uses it. Potentially even more vulnerable, in fact.
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I'm still wondering what mensa means.. I thought it was a like a flat hill.
wrote last edited by [email protected]mensa actually means dumb in spanish!
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I'm still wondering what mensa means.. I thought it was a like a flat hill.
Mesa is a flat hill.
Mensa describes itself as a "High IQ Society". Essentially, anyone who scores well on an IQ test can join, and they have plaques, membership cards, and such they give out. As far as I know, the whole point of Mensa is to say you're smart enough to be in Mensa.
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I don't get why something like Mesa even exists. Like, what even is the moment where pulling out your Mensa card is a good idea?
Assuming you are inteligent, you should know that flashing a card from a gatekept "clever people" club will probably not impress many people, just like you should recognize that the test you did doesn't mean shit and IQ is not a good way how to measure people.
Yeah, no one "flashes a Mensa card" unless they are a jerk. We joined many years ago when we lived in Iowa for the social aspect. The parties are a lot of fun and the people are all fascinating. Not all people you want to spend time with, but fascinating. We let our memberships lapse when we moved back to Colorado.
Nearly universally, Mensans recognized that IQ is only measure of how well you do on an IQ test (which, as you may know, was never intended as a test for the upper end, only to find students who needed intervention) or the other allowed tests.
There were materially successful people and not, socially adept and not. People we learned to avoid and people who became friends. Cringe and connection.
I suppose it is like any other social club where you have something in common with the additional kicker that people were not holding back in conversation. You had the chance to rapidly be humbled in that case if you went on at length about some favorite topic only to find out the person you were talking to was an expert in it.
Plus there were cool speakers and field trips. "Dumb things smart people do" was one of our favorites.
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Don't let you convince yourself of something just because you want to believe it's true. IQ is not an objective measurement of intelligence, but it isn't completely useless either.
It’s worse than useless. It tells you literally nothing about anything, plus idiots think it’s meaningful.
