We're learnding.
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This ain't a meme, Pug
President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho is saddened
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You have entire corporations, nation-wide that are backed by religious nuts and racists, entire state-sized organizations of assholes paid from the bottom-up, and unless science and education has the same backing, we will lose.
When's the last time a rock band was labeled a "science band", but you can name four or five christian bands without even listening to them?
There are entire record companies and publishing houses that do nothing but spread more of it, interest groups in the billions of dollars that circulate faith and blindness. Even philanthropy, and a yelling preacher on every corner, sometimes across the street from one another, hospitals, nonprofits, foundations, you name it.
Christianity and Judaism is so overblown in support, we shouldn't expect anything less than absolute ignorance. Look what's pushing it.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]Science shouldn't be compared to religion. On one hand because the doctrine of non-overlapping magesteria which all religions should follow (it can be summed up as anything Science has a say in, religion shouldn't). But also like science shouldn't bother competing here. When science is treated as religion, it's often abused similarly. Its a method for understanding the world.
The fact that pv=nRT is provable and if I go and get rudimentary equipment to do this I can double check without any scientists present. Sure there are stories associated with science, but unlike in religion they aren't the stuff its made of. Science doesn't ask for praise or belief, it asks for skepticism, curiosity, and precision.
Edit: wait, does Muse's album "the second law" count as science rock? It slapped and was about thermodynamics to a certain degree
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Not surprising h their president can hardly read
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I'm curious what you think graduating high school has to do with being able to read.
It's the cut off point where folks generally stop being forced to read things more complex than IDK a Wendy's menu.
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Yep, going to report this. It's not a meme .. it is actually fact and documentation for our eventual Idiocracy future.
Just kidding about the report of course.
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“Terrible” is a threshold that can move, though. You can bang on about “half the world is below average” until you’re blue in the face but you will still always miss the point that the average should be much higher than it is and the spread should be nearly as wide. There will be a rough limit to intelligence at some point but the US, for all its resources and money, still seems more interested in finding the lower limit than the upper one.
Definitely valid point. Were are aiming way too low as a nation. It’s ok for people to fail and we should be rewarding people for over achieving. Not the opposite.
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For us foreigners, 6th grade is around 10 / 11 years old?
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For us foreigners, 6th grade is around 10 / 11 years old?
Yes, about. Ten years is peak reading for most Americans. And we wonder why they f-ck up the world.
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The US literally beat the Nazis to developing fission technology, i.e. nukes (admittedly with a very international research community). It's quite clear just from that, that the US had plenty of strong scientists before they brought in Nazis/Nazi collaborators from overseas.
As a complete side note: I believe it's been speculated (by people who know much more about this than me) that Nazi research on nukes, among other things, was hampered by researchers like Heisenberg deliberately dragging their feet because they were forced to work on the projects but didn't believe in the cause. I'm not meaning to clear the name of any Nazi collaborators, but pointing out that not all scientists working under the Nazi regime were necessarily nazis.
Nuke and atomic technology was one thing ... and the Americans basically had that in their pocket regardless if they had Nazi scientists or not
The big leap that the Americans made with Nazi scientists was to pair atomic technology with ballistic missile technology.
When you just have a bomb and you need a big slow moving aircraft to deliver the bomb, then it is almost useless as there are plenty of ways to take down a jet in mid flight before it even reaches a target.
The unholy match that humanity came up with was to pair nuclear weapons with missile technology ... which created a weapon that is nearly unstoppable and completely dangerous for all of humanity.
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What percentage are those guys in the photos?
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I think 6th grade is reading for plot. Just a basic plot with a few characters. No complex themes. No unreliable narrators. Limited vocabulary.
I found an online test for it somewhere and it was like
"Sally was born in Canada and lived there until she moved to the United States when she was thirteen. She spends summers in Canada with her aunt and uncle, but spends the rest of the year in Boston. This year, she's graduating from high school and planning on attending college. She wants to see more of the country, so her top picks for college are in California and Chicago."
"Where does Sally live during the winter?"
"Where did Sally spend her childhood?"
"Where do Sally's aunt and uncle live?"
You're not going to find as many people who read badly on a majority text platform like this.
Are you allowed to refer back to the text?
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Are you allowed to refer back to the text?
I believe so. Otherwise you're testing memory as well, which would make the results very confounded.
I can't find the one I did, but https://www.varsitytutors.com/6th_grade_reading-comprehension-problem-440865 seems free.
https://www.k12reader.com/subject/reading-skills/reading-comprehension/6th-grade-reading-comprehension/ also came up.
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Oh yes, I strongly agree with all that. Just felt the need to nitpick that the contribution of Nazi scientists was relatively narrow.
I always respect and look forward to your opinion. You are a great contributor to Lemmy and I always learn something new from everything you share here.
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It took thirty years of cutting education spending but they are almost to a fully ignorant populace.
We've even hit the point where they don't have to pretend to be pro education
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Is this real? And what’s 6th grade for someone who isn’t American?
About 11-12 years old. Educational standards should be a base understanding of simple novels and ability to write a basic page or two length essay on it. Math skills should be late arithmetic or early algebra. Or at least that's what I remember from the time.
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What percentage are those guys in the photos?
That is the smartest man in the world and the president
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For us foreigners, 6th grade is around 10 / 11 years old?
A little older. I was 11 in grade 6, but I was also the youngest student.
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Definitely valid point. Were are aiming way too low as a nation. It’s ok for people to fail and we should be rewarding people for over achieving. Not the opposite.
Aiming low because it’s easy to hit, which is necessary when the punishment for not hitting is being stripped of everything that can make you safe and secure(money and private insurance, in that system). People are terrified and it’s 33/33/33 if they use that fear to fight for others, fight against everyone else, or shove their heads in the sand and pretend there’s nothing they can do about it. Oddly enough there’s also a spike in test scores and shit because competition for jobs has gotten so fierce, but at the same time bad management isn’t doing anything of real value with that talent and all it’s really doing is hurting everyone.
People don’t even actually need a reward for over-achieving, either. Most people will happily do it for their own pride and for the thrill of doing it. The issue is more that they are burnt out and rightfully not willing to put in the extra effort if their manager is just going to take the credit and they’ll watch their shitty raise, if they get one, still be outpaced by inflation year over year. Give me safety and a real life and I’ll do the rest for free; threaten me and you’ll be lucky I don’t direct that energy toward plucking your fucking eyes out.
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For us foreigners, 6th grade is around 10 / 11 years old?
Yep. God help us.
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You have entire corporations, nation-wide that are backed by religious nuts and racists, entire state-sized organizations of assholes paid from the bottom-up, and unless science and education has the same backing, we will lose.
When's the last time a rock band was labeled a "science band", but you can name four or five christian bands without even listening to them?
There are entire record companies and publishing houses that do nothing but spread more of it, interest groups in the billions of dollars that circulate faith and blindness. Even philanthropy, and a yelling preacher on every corner, sometimes across the street from one another, hospitals, nonprofits, foundations, you name it.
Christianity and Judaism is so overblown in support, we shouldn't expect anything less than absolute ignorance. Look what's pushing it.
Where exactly are the Jews advocating for cutting educational resources? Jews in general perform far better on educational metrics than most other groups, and their whole religion is based on reading, study, and debate.
