Bad UX is keeping the majority of people away from Lemmy
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This seems to be quite a problem here, too many techy people and too few people with other interests, sure I'm in the first group myself but even then this is still a problem
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Thank you I appreciate all the input, I won't have the time or energy to drive something like that.
I can get behind a cause like that and help push it, but won't be able to lead.I'd love a place where there is no politics, it might also be appealing to many and I think it should be the default.
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Then you probably hit the main issue. Everyone's time is limited.
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[email protected] to discover communities!
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Tell them that if you join any Lemmy instance (e.g. Marxist-Leninist instance of Lemmy (not Hexbear)) and if you ignore some stuff on the instance, then it's a pretty compelling experience.
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The only real federation dramas I can think of were relating to Hexbear and Beehaw. If Greenleaf was on one of those instances then maybe it could explain their skewed perspective. Otherwise yeah, I don't get it.
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Valid point
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For me, a major issue isn't even the UI. It's federation control. On Mastodon & co, I can mute entire instances, cutting out A LOT of bullshit. On Lemmy, if I want that kind of control, I need to run my own instance. Doable, but kinda overkill.
It's one thing to hide individual subreddits on a centralised platform. It's another thing entirely to have many sites building a big platform, with the same communities duplicated with different rules and followings. That's just a game of wack-a-mole at that point.
And if I don't like the instance's communities, chances are I don't want to interact with its users either, leading to even more wack-a-mole.
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I don't know, feddit.nl is pretty chill. I always see everything and barely anything objectable
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https://piefed.social/ has user-level instance muting similar to Mastodon
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I have friends who still only use old.reddit and refuse to switch to new UI.
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It was the default for a very long time. Reddit changed that because it prevented them from monetizing the site that easily. And the admins seemed to dislike what RES could do with the old Reddit look.
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Would they be interested in Lemmy? Them using old.reddit shows that they would probably like it here
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The UI isn't the problem? The attached screenshot shows people talking about federation. Federation is very confusing, but also the core part of how the Fediverse functions. The only thing you could to is to provide an entry portal, where all servers are categorized by the type of content they provide and you can check and uncheck the type of content you want or might want to interact with. Based on your choices, the portal could recommend a random Lemmy or Mbin instance that has a track record of being reliable and allows you to interact with most content of that type. So if you'd want to see porn for example, the portal should choose an instance that is federated with lemmynsfw.
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How old are those friends of yours?
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I switched to Mbin but Lemmy has a variety of interfaces, not so sure this is necessarily a UX issue but an understanding issue.
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I respectfully disagree. Reddit went downhill and significantly more difficult to manage/moderate when the masses joined.
If people aren't willing to invest a bit of time to understand how Lemmy works (and it's really not that difficult to understand), then I don't think Lemmy is a good fit for them.
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The UI is fine, you can use Photon or other modern UI's
The UX is the problem (User Experience), the defaults just suck and many will give up before even knowing better UI's exist, or finding the right settings to make the default UI work for them.
Just picking a instance is intimidating and many will give up before that, we should guide them to pick an instance or choose a default and give them the option to change.
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The vast majority of people want an experience where federation is invisible. Sign up and post/comment. To maintain the benefits of decentralisation and choice, that's never going to be a truly workable thing.
The vast majority of people don't want to create or even participate in communities, they just want to lurk, scroll and get their new content fix. Every social media based site I've ever been on, federated or centralised has a large group of people complaining about the lack of new content but never take it upon themselves to apply the obvious solution themselves.
These are not necessarily UX issues, these are people issues.
Maybe its time to stop continually worrying about this subject and concentrate on creating great communities? Because if we do that then users will participate organically.
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That is a UX issue.
UX is like a Joke, if you need to explain it to someone, it's a bad Joke/UX
