Bad UX is keeping the majority of people away from Lemmy
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...and the fediverse doesn't need to dominate all social media. Period.
You'll never be able to migrate the IG influencer whose affiliate marketing business relies on the algorithm, or the Titkok million views dude who makes money off their views and lives. So I really don't understand this argument of "Oh we're alienating mass users".
Just like there's non-profit orgs vs businesses, open source software vs commerical ones, there also fediverse vs commercial social media. I prefer it here, and to each their own.
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And for some reason it seems like half of all distro specific communities are on .ml
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Alexandrite is honestly great. Made the experience much better. Just wish I could have it open links in a separate tab.
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How is a simple reasonable skirmish, a war ?
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It also means that lemmy will forever be less useful as an actual tool. You can not find nearly as many in-depth answers to topics by typing lemmy at the end of the search bar as reddit; and people will stay on reddit after they get the information they need because why go somewhere else. I understand that part of it is because reddit has been around for so long but I would think I could at least get linux questions answered here and I really can't
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This is my thought... Don't hide it, really, more like toss a blanket over that part while people get settled. Most will stick with the defaults (whether a single default like lemmy.world or regional defaults like lemmy.ca), but they'll get the option if that's something they want to change later (I do wish there was a way to move instances rather than having to make a new account, that might also help improve adoption... "Just go with this one while you settle in and move when you know where you want to go")
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Lots of Lemmy clients have great UI. The default web interface looks fine as well.
Wait till they try out Matrix. No client works properly and all the mobile clients are really bad.
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I would hundred percent agree with that!
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Fully agree with that, the bar is too to high usually unless you're being handheld through the process, realistically there should be an app like how blue sky is that doesn't give you any of the options because less options means easier setup. If they want to jump instances after that that would be considered an advanced function but they can choose to do so on their own accord.
Another issue I think is lack of actual awareness, like Bsky got media coverage, the everyday person still is like "the hells a lemmy"
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It's very common, but in Australia at least, no ubiquitous
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We have a good looking UI try Summit or Thunder for Lemmy for app and phtn.app for Web
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Part of me wants the fediverse to take over because the world needs open systems and not corporate outlets for ads and propaganda.
But this place is really fun how it is and I want to be selfish and keep the precious all for ourselves.
I think we have a lot of wiggle room between the two, fortunately. If we get 10x the users with the barriers to entry doing the same filtering as now, this place could really be hopping. But if we get 1000x the users and start doing Reddit numbers, who knows what it will be like.
Knowing humans, maybe there’s a critical mass at which Lemmy would fracture into multiple fediverse islands. But each could still be vastly larger than all of Lemmy right now.
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I believe the accusation is that the admins and moderators had a discord server that they were coordinating harassment campaigns from.
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Your #4 seems inaccurate, unless you were just walking us through your changing perspective as you joined.
This place is very left leaning and I’m sure it’s loaded with people who happily call themselves socialists while shouting down the MLs/tankies.
The main difference afaik is that they support authoritarians.
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The best reward on a Lemmy comment is an interesting and thoughtful reply.
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"bad ux? bad ui?"
i am a graphic designer!!! i only use linux and open source software like inkscape!! yea let's go!! fediverse -
I don't think it's UI issue. I think it's a traffic issue.
People go to a social media site because it's where everyone else is.
But the nature of the federation is that you end up with silos of traffic, and those silos are too small to keep content flowing, which stifles community engagement and subsequently growth. For every 10 people that see a post, one will like it enough to vote on it. Out of those people, 1 in 10 will be engaged enough to actually post. If they post and get no response, they lose interest in re-posting.
The strength of Reddit was that it allowed everyone to talk about everything at once, and it became the de-facto hub of the internet for many folks. You go onto /r/all and you'd get the sense that the world is there, flowing past. You don't really get that on lemmy or mastodon servers unless you make an active effort to go and subscribe to things.
A solution to this is, actually, more federation. Many lemmy instances could band together by building a front page interface that combined all of the best posts across servers. This would improve the speed and flow of content dramatically. Think of it as alliance like the old web-rings of the early days of the internet, but in this situation, you're posting the content of all your allied federated servers, and they're posting yours. Thus, when someone goes to lemmy.world, they really see the whole world of lemmy, not just this one instance.
This would draw in new users more than any interface update, IMHO. It also would serve as a great place for them to start to discover what they want to subscribe to and participate in, providing a far wider choice than any one instance on its own can provide.
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Add a bell button and a whistle button.
I think instead of promoting a page where people have to choose a server, just send people to lemmy.world directly. We should probably just get people to sign up there at first and have the ability to migrate their accounts to other servers if they want to do that later.
Having to choose from multiple servers is asking people to choose between a bunch of options they know nothing about. Get people straight to looking at content and posting stuff as soon as possible, once they're more invested, and understand more about the different instances they can change servers if that's what they want to do.
But yeah writhing the code needed to make account migration seamless might be a lot of work so not sure if that will happen.
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More federation is good, but lemmy had a defederation fiasco when everyone was paying attention.
People have enough of that IRL and want a truly global community.
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For real. I've seen people being dicks from every instance. I see far more .world peeps going into a frenzy because their world view was slightly critiqued than crazy tankie takes. Not saying those don't happen, and fuck tankies, but there's definitely more whining "fuck .ml" memes I see. It's just jingoistic bullshit. This is the Internet, nothing you do here really matters. Get the fuck over yourselves.
