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Why does Google support the Private Rom communities?

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  • Q [email protected]

    Why does Apple get to lock Evey thing down?

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    Because we let them

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    • Q [email protected]

      I have been using CalyxOS without MicroG. What made you go with Graphene. How long have you used it?

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      The bootloader locking is one of the main reasons. As well as graphenes isolation is the best in the field. I've been using it for 2years now had zero issues except with Amazon prime video but I solved that issue with a self hosted jellyfin instance. I got the sandboxes gplay services on a second profile for 2 or 3 apps that need it.

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      • zak@lemmy.worldZ [email protected]

        Sometimes people make things that are useful to Google or find bugs for them. It has no meaningful cost to them as long as non-Google Android isn't appealing to mainstream users.

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        Huawei and their HarmonyOS would disagree with you on how many users there are on an AOSP variant. It's a meaningful cost to Google, which is probably what is motivating them to lock down their phones now.

        https://medium.com/huawei-developers/what-is-harmonyos-how-it-differs-from-android-e5ea3fc50acc

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          Huawei and their HarmonyOS would disagree with you on how many users there are on an AOSP variant. It's a meaningful cost to Google, which is probably what is motivating them to lock down their phones now.

          https://medium.com/huawei-developers/what-is-harmonyos-how-it-differs-from-android-e5ea3fc50acc

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          Huawei was forced to offer non-Google Android due to USA sanctions. I don't know whether that has created difficulties for them in the Chinese market, but a quick search shows a significant decline in market share in Europe.

          I do think Amazon launching an Android phone in 2014 without Google's ecosystem is the main reason Google launched SafetyNet. Of course the Fire Phone failed because it wasn't very good and Amazon didn't iterate, but I imagine Google didn't want them or anyone else to try again.

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          • Q [email protected]

            I have been using CalyxOS without MicroG. What made you go with Graphene. How long have you used it?

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            How'd you disable microG? I really like CalyxOS. Wish graphene supported microG.

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            • Q [email protected]

              Why does Google bother unlocking boot loaders, or doing anything that helps AOSP? Why have they not gone the way of Apple?

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              I'm on Graphene OS and I have some problems with my banking apps and I think it will get worse over time.
              My device before my pixel was on micro-G but I had so many problems that I embraced Graphene os and its sandbox Google.

              I would love to take the step and cut more Google out of my life. But now I have a new car with Android Auto. And I love the concept. But now Google needs all these rights to my apps.

              And to my knowledge, there isn't any open source alternative or reverse engineered Android Auto.

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                I'm on Graphene OS and I have some problems with my banking apps and I think it will get worse over time.
                My device before my pixel was on micro-G but I had so many problems that I embraced Graphene os and its sandbox Google.

                I would love to take the step and cut more Google out of my life. But now I have a new car with Android Auto. And I love the concept. But now Google needs all these rights to my apps.

                And to my knowledge, there isn't any open source alternative or reverse engineered Android Auto.

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                Hopefully someday there is

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                • rubberelectrons@lemmy.worldR [email protected]

                  How'd you disable microG? I really like CalyxOS. Wish graphene supported microG.

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                  You have the option when you set up your initial profile, to NOT use Micro G and it will not install it on your main profile. So you can rock a fully degoogled phone. Then you can either use Android 15s Private Space or the Work profile and install Micro G in THOSE and then close them when done and go back to a fully degoogled phone.

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                  • Q [email protected]

                    You have the option when you set up your initial profile, to NOT use Micro G and it will not install it on your main profile. So you can rock a fully degoogled phone. Then you can either use Android 15s Private Space or the Work profile and install Micro G in THOSE and then close them when done and go back to a fully degoogled phone.

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                    Neat, thanks! I hope they can figure out what to do for pixel phones for future releases.

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                    • Q [email protected]

                      Why does Google bother unlocking boot loaders, or doing anything that helps AOSP? Why have they not gone the way of Apple?

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                      Probably because there's a bubble of nerds inside it that managed to survive from the "don't be evil" days, before profit incentive inevitably won. Reddit still has their old frontend available, and I suspect it's the same story.

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