Coders or lemmy, what editors do you use? Is it worth learning a new one?
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I use pycharm at work for most things. Work paid for it. It has some nice stuff i like. I'm sure other editors do all of this, too, but nothing's been causing me enough pain to switch
- Database integration. Little side panel shows me the tables, and I can do queries, view table structure, etc, right here
- Find usages/declaration is pretty good. Goes into library code, too.
- The autocomplete is pretty good. I think they have newfangled AI options now, but the traditional introspection autocomplete has been doing it for me.
- Can use the python interpreter inside the docker container
- The refactor functions are pretty good. Rename, move, etc
- Naive search is pretty good. Can limit it to folders, do regex, filter by file name, etc
It does have multiple cursors but I've rarely needed that.
I use sublime for quick note taking. Mostly I like that it has syntax highlighting, and it doesn't require me to explicitly save a tab for it to stay open
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xfce text editor and sublime text, and vim but only when i want to work within the terminal
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Zed, for the last few months, and happy with it (previously vscode) - I code in Scala, so Metals provides the complex hints / actions.
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Dev of 25 years here: Cursor, for the LLM integration. It's based on VSCode, just way tighter AI integration. It's so good.
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NeoVim plus tmux.
Great multi dimensional way of operating. You have access to the terminal and your ide.
It's beautiful
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Doom Emacs
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My editors
- Professionally I use Jetbrains stuff (intellij, pycharm, etc).
- At home I use Neovim because I like to have lsp support, I'm too cheap to pay for IDE's and I dislike VSCode for personal reasons. For quick edits I use default text editor e.g. kate/gedit.
My opinions on learning new editors
- If you need to go fast now, use what you know best.
- If you have time to learn just try whatever looks cool. Learning a new editor/way to edit text will broaden your horizons even if you don't end up using it.
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I use the godot integrated code editor, but i am debating switching to writing the code in google slides and copying the text into notepad in a virtual machine
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It's more that the position of the escape key changed. This was they layout of the keyboard vi was written on. Note the arrow keys too.
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I use vim, or spacemacs with evil mode (emacs distribution with sensible shortcuts and vim emulation). Or VSCode with spacemacs emulation.
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Not dev but I'm in IT/Cybersec mostly as it's much easier to find jobs there and I use vim just about everywhere, usually with tmux and i3 with custom vim-like keybinds (super+j move focus right etc), I use vim even on my phone in termux, with gboard.
At work I use gedit and gnome terminal or whatever cuz it's company time unless I'm personally interested in what I'm doing
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I hate to be that guy but (neo)vim has served me well for too long. I don't even use any crazy maps or plugins; it's just comfy.
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I've tried to learn Vim in the past but IMO it is not worth it at all. In a world without multiple cursors... sure, maybe. With multiple cursors? No way. I can can edit just as fast as I've seen any Vim user do it, and without having to remember a gazillion mnemonics and deal with the silly modal thing.
Multiple cursor editing even has some significant advantages over Vim style, e.g. it's interactive, so you can do your edit gradually and go back if you make a mistake. Rather than having to write a complex command and only finding out it if works at the end. (If you've used regex find & replace you'll understand that problem.)
I'll probably get downvoted for this since Vim is kind of a cult, and Vim users get a sense of superiority from it. Kind of like audiophiles - they don't appreciate it if you tell them their £10k valve amp doesn't actually sound any better than your £1k digital amp.
For editing on remote computers I use VSCode remote or Micro for quick tasks.
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Same. Jetbrains makes the best IDEs hands down IMO and I say this after 20 years of coding and using numerous IDEs. I also use vscode as a backup but as more of a glorified text editor.
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vscode + whatever connection plugin you need + vim plugin
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vi WAS almost ubiquitously installed on any host you’d connect to, so it was worth learning.
The reason we like it is because it’s been iterated over to be useful for modifying the types of files you’d be editing. It has a significant plugin ecosphere and does its job well.
For editing on remote computers I use VSCode remote or Micro for quick tasks.
and vim is the 10k amp in your analogy … huh.
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I swapped to neovim 10 months ago. Haven't looked back. Actually, I've looked back a LOT for the first few weeks because I couldn't figure out how to do certain things. But the more you learn the better it becomes. Not needing your mouse is SO good.
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I started with neovim because I hate my laptop's mousepad, and that's often pushed as a benefit of modal editors, not needing the mouse. After I used it for a while I found that not only could you do stuff that you could do stuff easily that would be difficult in, say vs code, but it was also pretty fun. It's honestly a bit of a power trip sometimes, makes me feel like a 90s tv hacker. Also plugins. So many neat plugins.
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I'm still learning to code, but I tried out a bunch and I've liked using Vim, VScodium and Pycharm.
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