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Recommend object URL should 301 to AP resource

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  • evan@cosocial.caE This user is from outside of this forum
    evan@cosocial.caE This user is from outside of this forum
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    @julian @johnonolan @angus there's a whole task force for this. You've commented on it. Why does this need to be discussed?

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    • trwnh@mastodon.socialT [email protected]

      @julian @johnonolan @angus @evan 301/308 aren’t cacheable/idempotent over the Accept header and are meant to permanently update old identifiers. consider 303 See Other for content negotiation purposes, or consider rel=alternate type=… Link headers otherwise.

      evan@cosocial.caE This user is from outside of this forum
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      @trwnh @julian @johnonolan @angus there's a doc for this.

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      • evan@cosocial.caE [email protected]

        @julian @johnonolan @angus there's a whole task force for this. You've commented on it. Why does this need to be discussed?

        julian@community.nodebb.orgJ This user is from outside of this forum
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        @[email protected] this was to ask the mentioned parties for Ghost and Discourse to implement.

        I mentioned you to keep you in the loop because task forces achieve nothing without implementors doing the work.

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        • rimu@piefed.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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          Object IDs should really be retrievable by http GET. See section 3.2 of https://www.w3.org/TR/activitypub

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          • rimu@piefed.socialR [email protected]

            Object IDs should really be retrievable by http GET. See section 3.2 of https://www.w3.org/TR/activitypub

            julian@community.nodebb.orgJ This user is from outside of this forum
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            #7

            @[email protected] yes, that's right. I'm specifically referring to object urls though, which tend to be more user facing.

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            • silverpill@mitra.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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              @julian @johnonolan @angus @evan

              Why 301 and not 302?
              I am using 302. Probably chose it because everyone else was using it.

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              • silverpill@mitra.socialS [email protected]

                @julian @johnonolan @angus @evan

                Why 301 and not 302?
                I am using 302. Probably chose it because everyone else was using it.

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                @[email protected] 302/307 is also fine by me. Probably safer from being accidentally cached and may be more appropriate in this situation.

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                • rimu@piefed.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #10

                  You could save yourself some hassle and make urls and IDs the same value. But you do you 🙂

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                  • johnonolan@mastodon.xyzJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @julian @angus @evan interesting problem! Redirect feels like a slightly weird pattern to me, intuitively, but open to implementing any preferred approach

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                    • johnonolan@mastodon.xyzJ [email protected]

                      @julian @angus @evan interesting problem! Redirect feels like a slightly weird pattern to me, intuitively, but open to implementing any preferred approach

                      julian@community.nodebb.orgJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @[email protected] A solution is only needed if the resource id is different from the URL (which in Ghost's case, is true).

                      You don't have to use a redirect. If your software is capable of doing it, you can serve the ActivityPub object directly from that route's controller; that's what NodeBB does.

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                      • johnonolan@mastodon.xyzJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                        @julian If you want to make an issue here about what you'd like to see I'll make sure the team sees it 🙂

                        https://github.com/TryGhost/ActivityPub

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                        • johnonolan@mastodon.xyzJ [email protected]

                          @julian If you want to make an issue here about what you'd like to see I'll make sure the team sees it 🙂

                          https://github.com/TryGhost/ActivityPub

                          johnonolan@mastodon.xyzJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                          @julian (Thank you for the ping btw, I appreciate the note - this wasn't on my radar)

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                          • johnonolan@mastodon.xyzJ [email protected]

                            @julian (Thank you for the ping btw, I appreciate the note - this wasn't on my radar)

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                            @[email protected] no worries, and thanks! Will do.

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