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How do people manage to actually get jobs through online applications (US citizen here)?

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    I'm sure this must sound stupid for many, but I never get any responses, until like 3 days later when I check my spam folder and realize my scheduled interview appointment came from some random server that got deleted as spam mail.

    How the hell do people get jobs online? I've only ever landed a job in person.

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      I'm sure this must sound stupid for many, but I never get any responses, until like 3 days later when I check my spam folder and realize my scheduled interview appointment came from some random server that got deleted as spam mail.

      How the hell do people get jobs online? I've only ever landed a job in person.

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      I don’t know. I’ve been applying for jobs for seven years online, and I haven’t gotten a fucking thing.

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        I'm sure this must sound stupid for many, but I never get any responses, until like 3 days later when I check my spam folder and realize my scheduled interview appointment came from some random server that got deleted as spam mail.

        How the hell do people get jobs online? I've only ever landed a job in person.

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        1. I report any email that is spam as spam, so my inbox is quite clean and I don't miss anything
        2. I applied to ~600 positions, averaging about 100 positions an hour. You just have to be faster with the application process; don't customize your resume, don't read the job description, just apply
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          I'm sure this must sound stupid for many, but I never get any responses, until like 3 days later when I check my spam folder and realize my scheduled interview appointment came from some random server that got deleted as spam mail.

          How the hell do people get jobs online? I've only ever landed a job in person.

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          Have you had anyone take a look at your resume? When was the last time you reviewed it? Is it at least somewhat visually appealing? How long is it?

          Unfortunately, it may be a good idea to "customize" each submission by incorporating keywords from the actual listing into your resume.

          I'm not the one to give advice on this, really, but I've heard of people having a lot of success with networking and reaching out directly to recruiters/managers/ect.

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            Have you had anyone take a look at your resume? When was the last time you reviewed it? Is it at least somewhat visually appealing? How long is it?

            Unfortunately, it may be a good idea to "customize" each submission by incorporating keywords from the actual listing into your resume.

            I'm not the one to give advice on this, really, but I've heard of people having a lot of success with networking and reaching out directly to recruiters/managers/ect.

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            Unfortunately, it may be a good idea to "customize" each submission by incorporating keywords from the actual listing into your resume.

            This is usually a bad idea, since quantity > quality for most people trying to get a professional job. But I do agree with the rest of your comment

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              I don’t know. I’ve been applying for jobs for seven years online, and I haven’t gotten a fucking thing.

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              I mean how many jobs have you applied to online? I think about 1 in 100 applications leading to an interview is around standard, although some people will get lucky.

              Also the reason we don't explain why you didn't get the job is because given hundreds of applications, that would take hours to do (I personally only look at a resume for 10+ seconds anyways) and we don't want to open ourselves to legal retaliation

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                I mean how many jobs have you applied to online? I think about 1 in 100 applications leading to an interview is around standard, although some people will get lucky.

                Also the reason we don't explain why you didn't get the job is because given hundreds of applications, that would take hours to do (I personally only look at a resume for 10+ seconds anyways) and we don't want to open ourselves to legal retaliation

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                lol, wow

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                • lady_maria@lemmy.worldL [email protected]

                  Have you had anyone take a look at your resume? When was the last time you reviewed it? Is it at least somewhat visually appealing? How long is it?

                  Unfortunately, it may be a good idea to "customize" each submission by incorporating keywords from the actual listing into your resume.

                  I'm not the one to give advice on this, really, but I've heard of people having a lot of success with networking and reaching out directly to recruiters/managers/ect.

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                  I agree with this advice of having someone take a look at your resume. Way back, I had an older friend of mine with experience managing CV's help me work on mine and even the base template of my cover letters. I've done a number of interviews, mostly unsuccessful though I'm happy with where I'm at now, and one consistent thing I've heard is that I have an impressive resume, and I'm forever thankful to my friend for helping me put it together.

                  I don't quite agree on customizing your CV for every submission, but I do do this for my cover letter/correspondence.

                  Also, yes, reaching out directly to places you want to work with has worked for me a couple of times. If there are hiring/networking events for your field, even online ones, I'd recommend that too. Best success I've had landing interviews is through these kind of events and I've only done online ones.

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                    1. I report any email that is spam as spam, so my inbox is quite clean and I don't miss anything
                    2. I applied to ~600 positions, averaging about 100 positions an hour. You just have to be faster with the application process; don't customize your resume, don't read the job description, just apply
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                    LinkedIn has Easy Apply or Quick Apply, I forget the name. The shotgun approach is best and I relied heavily on quantity over quality. Why write a cover letter for a job when I can apply to 10 others without that requirement?

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                      LinkedIn has Easy Apply or Quick Apply, I forget the name. The shotgun approach is best and I relied heavily on quantity over quality. Why write a cover letter for a job when I can apply to 10 others without that requirement?

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                      This is the correct way to do it. Even when I was hiring, I much preferred opening Quick Apply positions. I don't want to waste your time either

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                        I'm sure this must sound stupid for many, but I never get any responses, until like 3 days later when I check my spam folder and realize my scheduled interview appointment came from some random server that got deleted as spam mail.

                        How the hell do people get jobs online? I've only ever landed a job in person.

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                        Idk how you even get a job these days without connections or an online app

                        Have someone that’s working in the field you’re applying for take a look at your resume and cover letters.

                        My wife works for the govt so their resumes have a distinctly long look and formatting to them. I’ve bothered my wife plenty of times with a friend’s resume and she has sent people my way.

                        It’s a terrible system but since it’s a shitty numbers game you might as well stack whatever you can in your favor

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                          I'm sure this must sound stupid for many, but I never get any responses, until like 3 days later when I check my spam folder and realize my scheduled interview appointment came from some random server that got deleted as spam mail.

                          How the hell do people get jobs online? I've only ever landed a job in person.

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                          In-person interviews are not a thing anymore since the pandemic, from what I've seen. LinkedIn is the place to go. Recruiters will schedule a call and they'll usually remind you an email is on the way.

                          I don't want to work. I want to take a year off. Yet, I got a job interview and I'm not even looking.

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                            This is the correct way to do it. Even when I was hiring, I much preferred opening Quick Apply positions. I don't want to waste your time either

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                            This is oddly comforting. So many websites and opinion articles push the idea of painstakingly tailoring a resume, then hunting down the listing on the website and re-filling in that same resume twice.

                            On top of that they make you feel like you’re the problem when that doesn’t work and you’ve wasted three hours of your time to maybe get rejected six weeks later.

                            Thank you for being honest. This will save a lot of time and stress going forward. /gen

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                              In-person interviews are not a thing anymore since the pandemic, from what I've seen. LinkedIn is the place to go. Recruiters will schedule a call and they'll usually remind you an email is on the way.

                              I don't want to work. I want to take a year off. Yet, I got a job interview and I'm not even looking.

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                              Do you have any tips? All I ever get are Indian IT companies that want to offer training attached to a 19% payback.

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                                1. I report any email that is spam as spam, so my inbox is quite clean and I don't miss anything
                                2. I applied to ~600 positions, averaging about 100 positions an hour. You just have to be faster with the application process; don't customize your resume, don't read the job description, just apply
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                                My problem with that is that Google has a fucking mind all its own and will automatically file whatever the hell it feels like as spam, and I have no clue how to change those options, especially when I have no idea what server to expect an interview schedule email to even come from.

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                                  Have you had anyone take a look at your resume? When was the last time you reviewed it? Is it at least somewhat visually appealing? How long is it?

                                  Unfortunately, it may be a good idea to "customize" each submission by incorporating keywords from the actual listing into your resume.

                                  I'm not the one to give advice on this, really, but I've heard of people having a lot of success with networking and reaching out directly to recruiters/managers/ect.

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                                  Honestly, my resumé does need a bit of a refresher, but I also think it would start looking more like a scattered mess after 2017.

                                  I used to work in computer, tablet and cell phone repair, for a lousy fucking $10 an hour though. So I got sick of that and basically quit when I started getting side opportunities to occasionally fix hotel door locks for $20 an hour, but that was randomly sporadic.

                                  These days, I get by with whatever odd jobs come up, which range from occasional vehicle repairs to helping elderly disabled people get on and off the toilet.

                                  But I'll be damned if I'm about to go back into fixing $500 devices for a lousy $10 an hour, when one single accidental slip of a soldering iron might cost me an entire week's pay.

                                  I'd rather sharpen lawnmower blades or some shit than gamble with fixing expensive ass devices that I'd never even use myself.

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                                    lol, wow

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                                    I know right?

                                    Some say "If you don't have a job, your only job is to get a job"

                                    Others say "Time is money"

                                    Well, if I waste my time filing 100 applications, why ain't I getting paid for my time filing applications?

                                    Filing applications isn't a job, it's a chore, and one that doesn't even pay, unless it's that 1 out of 100 or whatever when you actually do land a job.

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                                      This is oddly comforting. So many websites and opinion articles push the idea of painstakingly tailoring a resume, then hunting down the listing on the website and re-filling in that same resume twice.

                                      On top of that they make you feel like you’re the problem when that doesn’t work and you’ve wasted three hours of your time to maybe get rejected six weeks later.

                                      Thank you for being honest. This will save a lot of time and stress going forward. /gen

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                                      Depends on the type of job. In my industry you'd be lucky to find more than 10 job openings in the whole country per month. You bet you want to tailor the everything out of the resume and cover letters.

                                      For basic jobs like retail, you can apply with AI written slop and nobody will notice. All they need to know is your availability.

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                                        Do you have any tips? All I ever get are Indian IT companies that want to offer training attached to a 19% payback.

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                                        Yeah it's mostly Indian recruiters. Just hear them out when they contact you. They actually need people. When I apply for vacancies, I got nothing. Never heard about paypacks schemes or anything.

                                        I'm normally not very lucky. Maybe it helps to look like you're not that interested?

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                                          I mean how many jobs have you applied to online? I think about 1 in 100 applications leading to an interview is around standard, although some people will get lucky.

                                          Also the reason we don't explain why you didn't get the job is because given hundreds of applications, that would take hours to do (I personally only look at a resume for 10+ seconds anyways) and we don't want to open ourselves to legal retaliation

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                                          Admittedly this isn’t the worst story I’ve heard, but it would be nice if you could appreciate that you’re dealing with human beings, and provide some feedback.

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