Great fucking job, bothsiders.

[lillypip@lemmy.ca]

Great fucking job, bothsiders. Now you get Genocide++.

I really hope you’re happy that your conscience is clean now the guy who’s main spokesman said Gaza’s ‘waterfront property could be very valuable’ and who himself declared it ‘could be better than Monaco’, clearly with an eye towards beachfront real estate, has the power to make that happen for his own gain.

This was entirely predictable, and we told you this would happen. Trump told you so himself. The dems weren’t perfect by any stretch, but Kamala absolutely wasn’t looking at the situation as to how she could personally profit through real estate development if the Palestinians were just wiped off the map as quickly as possible. Trump likely had the choicest property mapped out, with property developers already submitting proposals.

If you abstained because of both-sides re Israel, fuck you. You at best were played and at worst helped to play others, and now we ALL get to suffer.

[queermunist@lemmy.ml]

600-900 aid trucks are entering Gaza every day and the bombs have stopped falling.

Trump talks shit a lot, but until he actually does something the situation now is far better than it was under Biden.

[fine_sandy_bottom@discuss.tchncs.de]

Can you elaborate?

What about Trump's arrival / Biden's departure has enabled 900 aid trucks to start rolling into Gaza every day ?

[queermunist@lemmy.ml]

The ceasefire? Before that, basically no aid was coming in.

[wispy_jsp@lemmy.world]

You mean the pointless political charade to try and make trump look good as he proceeds to further enable and promote the genocide?

[lillypip@lemmy.ca]

You’re kidding, right? You think that aid is because of trump, when you’re responding in an article that says his stated motives are the opposite of that?

Much of that aid was already secured before he took office. Shit takes time – especially in a war zone. Wait a month or so and get back to me on whether aid from the US continues. The US has been giving aid to many places that will continue for a short while until the new policies filter through.

Listen to what the new moron-in-chief says, and notice that some policies take a bit of time to take effect. Like the US economy, for instance. Large systems don’t turn on a dime.

[queermunist@lemmy.ml]

They could have gotten that aid in any time they wanted. It doesn't just take time, it takes political will. The trucks were already there and the aid was all ready to go, they just had to be let in the border by the Zionist entity. They needed a ceasefire.

I'll definitely be watching what happens over the next weeks and months, but how about we actually do that instead of catastrophize every time the moron in chief says something stupid that he can't enforce? Forcing Egypt and Jordan to take 1.5-2 million refugees is about as likely as Trump actually annexing Greenland. This shit isn't happening.

[flashmobofone@lemmy.world]

The dems weren’t perfect by any stretch

Totally.

Enthusiastically helping Israel stack bodies for four years was definitely imperfect.

[flashmobofone@lemmy.world]

It's fascinating how the situation in Gaza is objectively better (for now), and you sound almost disappointed because it wasn't Joe Biden who achieved it. (And in fact, Joe kept the genocide going until the very last day of his presidency.)

[mozes@lemmy.zip]

The ceasefire was agreed under Biden, before the inauguration... Biden is not good for Palestine, but Trump is not better.

[flashmobofone@lemmy.world]

Yeah, but it was pressure from Trump that achieved it, because when Israel told Biden to jump, he did as he was told.

Hence why he earned the moniker: Genocide Joe.

[mozes@lemmy.zip]

Pressure from Trump?? What reality do you live in lol

When Israel tells Trump to jump he says here are all the weapons I can give you and more. Biden sucks in this situation, Trump actually wants people to suffer so the Christian evangelicals stay happy

[zarkanian@sh.itjust.works]

Pressure from Trump?? What reality do you live in lol

Yes, pressure from Trump. Listen to Democracy Now from the 16th which covers this.

This ceasefire deal was the same one proposed by Biden in May of last year. Hamas agreed to it, but Netanyahu did not.

What changed? Trump put his foot down.

[timewarp@lemmy.world]

Agreed 100%. If all Democrats do for the next four years is scream the sky is falling then they will lose even more voters in 2028. You don't run a pro-genocide candidate & parade around with the Cheney's if the sky is falling. That is called trying to lose.

[berno@lemmy.world]

They will double down and keep screaming the sky is falling and whoever disagrees with them will be labeled Nazi/Fascist.

[lillypip@lemmy.ca]

Of everything I said, that’s the part you decided to focus on?

e: not that trump had said he’d glass the region to build hotels?

[panarab@lemm.ee]

Genocide and Genocide++, if you admit those are the two major parties in the US then why do you blame people like me who voted third party?

[panarab@lemm.ee]

Trump's Mideast Envoy Forced Netanyahu to Accept a Gaza Plan He Repeatedly Rejected

[hark@lemmy.world]

All this finger wagging because people criticized democrats sending billions in weapons which were used in the genocide? Somehow it's protestors fault in this scenario.

The degree to which you bend over backwards to support the legitimacy of a system where BOTH SIDES of the two-party system fully support israel is astonishing. You speak of others getting played, yet here you are getting played into thinking you can make a difference in a government that has fully supported israel since its establishment regardless of who is in power.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=enb4WxWeH-Q

[glasgow@lemmy.ml]

Because it’s an effective vote for Genocide++