Elon Musk’s X blocks links to Signal, the encrypted messaging service
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SimpleX sounds like herpes.
So now we know what he kid's nickname will be when he gets herpes in high school
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Yeah look: https://github.com/signalapp
Their backend is closed source.
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I'm trying to use simplex, mainly for the instance's chat. 2 things to say:
- notifications work perfectly even without play store
- every device has a separate account - I can't reuse the same one. Not the end of the world, but it's really annoying
From the looks of it, the variety of ways you can purposefully or accidentally destroy your local database, and the several options to automatically delete messages, really gives me the feeling SimpleX is intended to be extremely disposable and deniable.
After playing with it I just don’t see it being used for anything expected to be convenient or ongoing. Regarding the one device per account thing, I think the whole point is you just protect your one app, nobody is sneaking in your laptop or tablet, no remote leaks possible from a sync engine. On iOS you can link to a desktop app, but your phone must remain not just on, but in the app and on the pair screen. One twitch out, PC disconnects.
Feels like something for journalists, whistleblowers, protesters, and all the bad ones. It’s a burner app for your burner phone.
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Their backend is closed source.
https://github.com/signalapp/Signal-Server
On Wikipedia it says the servers are open source but spam prevention is proprietary.
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https://github.com/signalapp/Signal-Server
On Wikipedia it says the servers are open source but spam prevention is proprietary.
Thanks for the correction. That's pretty rad. Now I'm wondering if that's a wrong memory or if it was released in the last few years.
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I've blocked Twitter on my Adguard Home DNS already last year, so no "X" shit in my house/our mobile devices anywhere.
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I was waiting for such endorsement, maybe my friends will switch now.
In kinda pissed with them not agreeing to the chat app interoperability protocolo though, i want to delete whatsapp so bad...
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Time to create redsky, yellowsky, and pinksky URL forwarders
Redground
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And when you say freely you mean hate.
In his case.
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I've blocked Twitter on my Adguard Home DNS already last year, so no "X" shit in my house/our mobile devices anywhere.
I don't think it is a good idea to block twitter completely. Some countries use twitter for official announcements, including emergency warning.
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Is signal foss?
It's source-available
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Thanks for the correction. That's pretty rad. Now I'm wondering if that's a wrong memory or if it was released in the last few years.
There was a fuss a while back since the released source appeared to be waaaay out of date compared to what was being used.
They came out and said that they wanted the usernames feature to be developed fully before it got pushed public. Which they then did.
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I don't think it is a good idea to block twitter completely. Some countries use twitter for official announcements, including emergency warning.
That’s a weird reason to keep using X. Hopefully these places also does other forms of communications, otherwise it’s a sad state of affairs.
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That’s a weird reason to keep using X. Hopefully these places also does other forms of communications, otherwise it’s a sad state of affairs.
They do have other ways such as SMS if it is critical, but most people simply share the twitter link via WhatsApp and you can be more updated by using twitter. Most people haven't moved to Bluesky or Mastodon, so if there is flooding or heavy rain most people will share updates on their location via twitter and WhatsApp like for example flooded streets.
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So what’s the opinion here between Signal and SimpleX?
Signal gets all the attention, and seems more approachable but ties to a phone number which can be a big deal.
SimpleX ties to nothing but I could absolutely see people I know fucking it up and wondering where their “account” went.
So, Signal as an common man’s adoptable compromise and SimpleX to nerd out with full “opsec” and disposability? That about right?
Signal has been under way more scrutiny than SimpleX. In both academic papers and security audits.
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I don't think it is a good idea to block twitter completely. Some countries use twitter for official announcements, including emergency warning.
My country doesn't and hopefully others will follow.
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@cyrano The "problem" (actually, the feature) with those censorship algorithms is that they rely a lot on the "exact contents" of the message ("Scunthorpe Problem"), so X is probably programmed to detect the Signal's domain and block due to the presence of such link (similar to how Facebook was/is blocking links to the largest PixelFed instances, and then they also decided to block links to DistroWatch and official websites from various Linux distros), so it's not programmed (yet) to censor just the "hexadecimal/base64/whatever" portion of the link alone. And there's where Tox could shine: a handle is literally a hexadecimal sequence, without Tox's domains, without URI Schemas, just a bunch of digits and letters from A to F.
I don't know why Tox isn't mentioned as a "instant messaging platform for whistleblowers": it got Onion (Tor) tunneling possibility (as well as tunneling it through I2P outproxies because it actually accepts any kind of SOCKS5 proxy), it's registration-less (even Matrix needs registration) so it's effectively anonymous IMO.
SimpleX seems to be that, too, although I didn't have the opportunity to use it more than I used Tox. But from the little I've used it, it's similar to Signal in the sense that it's a link (and a large link) and not simply a hash/hex sequence.
Tox is nice.
The typical pattern over here: if someone uses Signal, you guess they're some military type (wants things to be secure, but wants it easy). If someone uses Tox, you guess they're some hacker / anarchist type (wants things to be secure, but also anonymizable, even if it's a bit harder).
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I would really like to know who is using 'X' now ? I mean apart from Musk and his bot army
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I would really like to know who is using 'X' now ? I mean apart from Musk and his bot army
A bunch of undecided voter types that pay zero attention to anything that isn’t their hobbies.
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I would really like to know who is using 'X' now ? I mean apart from Musk and his bot army
Unfortunately, a lot of official government services and representatives are still using it. I saw someone reference a Twitter post about that Canadian plane crash, for instance.
