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Elon Musk’s X blocks links to Signal, the encrypted messaging service

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  • P [email protected]

    I think we need laws against platforms censoring discussion of their rivals, particularly with shadow bans and shadow delistings.

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    like anti-competitive laws? We have those. They tend to rely on certain people enforcing them though

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    • P [email protected]

      I think we need laws against platforms censoring discussion of their rivals, particularly with shadow bans and shadow delistings.

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      You wish. It's not gonna happen with these douchebags in power.

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      • C [email protected]

        You wish. It's not gonna happen with these douchebags in power.

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        That's the sad truth.

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        • B [email protected]

          Only the cool kids know where to get FOSS.

          somepusher

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          Is signal foss?

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            Is signal foss?

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            Yeah look: https://github.com/signalapp

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            • S [email protected]

              SimpleX sounds like herpes.

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              So now we know what he kid's nickname will be when he gets herpes in high school

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                Yeah look: https://github.com/signalapp

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                Their backend is closed source.

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                • illecors@lemmy.cafeI [email protected]

                  I'm trying to use simplex, mainly for the instance's chat. 2 things to say:

                  • notifications work perfectly even without play store
                  • every device has a separate account - I can't reuse the same one. Not the end of the world, but it's really annoying
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                  From the looks of it, the variety of ways you can purposefully or accidentally destroy your local database, and the several options to automatically delete messages, really gives me the feeling SimpleX is intended to be extremely disposable and deniable.

                  After playing with it I just don’t see it being used for anything expected to be convenient or ongoing. Regarding the one device per account thing, I think the whole point is you just protect your one app, nobody is sneaking in your laptop or tablet, no remote leaks possible from a sync engine. On iOS you can link to a desktop app, but your phone must remain not just on, but in the app and on the pair screen. One twitch out, PC disconnects.

                  Feels like something for journalists, whistleblowers, protesters, and all the bad ones. It’s a burner app for your burner phone.

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                  • treadful@lemmy.zipT [email protected]

                    Their backend is closed source.

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                    https://github.com/signalapp/Signal-Server

                    On Wikipedia it says the servers are open source but spam prevention is proprietary.

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                      https://github.com/signalapp/Signal-Server

                      On Wikipedia it says the servers are open source but spam prevention is proprietary.

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                      Thanks for the correction. That's pretty rad. Now I'm wondering if that's a wrong memory or if it was released in the last few years.

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                        I've blocked Twitter on my Adguard Home DNS already last year, so no "X" shit in my house/our mobile devices anywhere.

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                        • misk@sopuli.xyzM [email protected]

                          I was waiting for such endorsement, maybe my friends will switch now.

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                          In kinda pissed with them not agreeing to the chat app interoperability protocolo though, i want to delete whatsapp so bad...

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                          • H [email protected]

                            Time to create redsky, yellowsky, and pinksky URL forwarders

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                            Redground

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                            • W [email protected]

                              And when you say freely you mean hate.

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                              In his case.

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                              • kokesh@lemmy.worldK [email protected]

                                I've blocked Twitter on my Adguard Home DNS already last year, so no "X" shit in my house/our mobile devices anywhere.

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                                I don't think it is a good idea to block twitter completely. Some countries use twitter for official announcements, including emergency warning.

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                                • steal_your_face@lemmy.mlS [email protected]

                                  Is signal foss?

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                                  It's source-available

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                                  • treadful@lemmy.zipT [email protected]

                                    Thanks for the correction. That's pretty rad. Now I'm wondering if that's a wrong memory or if it was released in the last few years.

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                                    There was a fuss a while back since the released source appeared to be waaaay out of date compared to what was being used.

                                    They came out and said that they wanted the usernames feature to be developed fully before it got pushed public. Which they then did.

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                                      I don't think it is a good idea to block twitter completely. Some countries use twitter for official announcements, including emergency warning.

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                                      That’s a weird reason to keep using X. Hopefully these places also does other forms of communications, otherwise it’s a sad state of affairs.

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                                      • V [email protected]

                                        That’s a weird reason to keep using X. Hopefully these places also does other forms of communications, otherwise it’s a sad state of affairs.

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                                        They do have other ways such as SMS if it is critical, but most people simply share the twitter link via WhatsApp and you can be more updated by using twitter. Most people haven't moved to Bluesky or Mastodon, so if there is flooding or heavy rain most people will share updates on their location via twitter and WhatsApp like for example flooded streets.

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                                        • P [email protected]

                                          So what’s the opinion here between Signal and SimpleX?

                                          Signal gets all the attention, and seems more approachable but ties to a phone number which can be a big deal.

                                          SimpleX ties to nothing but I could absolutely see people I know fucking it up and wondering where their “account” went.

                                          So, Signal as an common man’s adoptable compromise and SimpleX to nerd out with full “opsec” and disposability? That about right?

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                                          Signal has been under way more scrutiny than SimpleX. In both academic papers and security audits.

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