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Firefox now has Terms of Use! This'll go over like a lead balloon

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  • zerush@lemmy.mlZ [email protected]

    Also because Blink is the best and most advanced engine. The problem of Chromium is only that it need to gut out the Google APIs before it is a valid base for an browser. Vivaldi does it, also degoogled Chromium and even EDGE (but in change filling it with a ton of M$ tracking APIs). The only alternative (Linux only) is the Konqueror Browser with the Grandfather of Blink, KHTML by KDE.

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    The problem of using blink is that then you give more power to google. They are the ones developing it, so they can decide what goes in it... cough jpegxl cough...

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    • zerush@lemmy.mlZ [email protected]

      You give Mozilla all rights necessary to operate Firefox, including processing data as we describe in the Firefox Privacy Notice, as well as acting on your behalf to help you navigate the internet. When you upload or input information through Firefox, you hereby grant us a nonexclusive, royalty-free, worldwide license to use that information to help you navigate, experience, and interact with online content as you indicate with your use of Firefox.

      https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/about/legal/terms/firefox/

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      I’m switching to Librewolf. I don’t want ads in my browser.

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        God dammit, and just as Google starts enforcing manifest 3.
        Maybe it's time to stop doing this internet thing altogether. It had a pretty nice run but right now it's just a propaganda and compliance tool...

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        Check out the gemini protocol and the small web, lots of rabbit holes there.

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          Bring back ham radios.

          Ah shit I'm too introverted to use my voice...

          Data packets through radio?

          Btw: Rattlegram is a Android/iOS app that can convert text to audio, which you can then play over a ham radio. You can use encryption before you paste the ciphertext into Rattlegram. (Encryption over radio is illegal in many jurisdictions tho... 🏴‍☠️)

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          Data packets through radio?

          Software Defined Radio?

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            No, we all got the pi = march 14 part, but WTF does that have to do with anything?

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            It's a cosmic cabal! The aliens are coming!

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              God dammit, and just as Google starts enforcing manifest 3.
              Maybe it's time to stop doing this internet thing altogether. It had a pretty nice run but right now it's just a propaganda and compliance tool...

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              I was on the verge of deleting everything online, including my email address, because I'm with you, but at what point does the privacy movement start intruding on enjoyment of daily activity. I've accepted that my information will be had in exchange for a good product.

              It's not exactly how I want to operate, but also, life is too short. Ultimately, I'm on the verge of using Mullvad Browser, Mullvad VPN, and probably getting my email hosted out of some small shared hosting platform somewhere.

              I think about this type of stuff daily and it's just exhausting. The Internet has transformed into what we'd hoped it wouldn't over the past five years.

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              • cheezoid2@sh.itjust.worksC [email protected]

                So what’s the next best thing to use, preferably one that supports uBlock?

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                I'll be moving to https://github.com/schizofox/schizofox on my x86 machines.

                Mobile will be a fork of Firefox.

                https://github.com/LadybirdBrowser/ladybird is a project I'm keeping an eye on, will be a while off being a daily driver.

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                • zerush@lemmy.mlZ [email protected]

                  Yes, but even more important to avoid sync with an Mozilla account, if you need the sync function (maybe Filen?) (Vivaldi has an own sync EE2E)

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                  Firefox sync is E2EE too (or at least can be, mine is)

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                  • zerush@lemmy.mlZ [email protected]

                    Yes, but even more important to avoid sync with an Mozilla account, if you need the sync function (maybe Filen?) (Vivaldi has an own sync EE2E)

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                    .

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                    • zerush@lemmy.mlZ [email protected]

                      Yes, but even more important to avoid sync with an Mozilla account, if you need the sync function (maybe Filen?) (Vivaldi has an own sync EE2E)

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                      AFAIK the sync is end to end encrypted

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                        Bring back ham radios.

                        Ah shit I'm too introverted to use my voice...

                        Data packets through radio?

                        Btw: Rattlegram is a Android/iOS app that can convert text to audio, which you can then play over a ham radio. You can use encryption before you paste the ciphertext into Rattlegram. (Encryption over radio is illegal in many jurisdictions tho... 🏴‍☠️)

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                        (Encryption over radio is illegal in many jurisdictions tho... 🏴‍☠️)

                        Unless the police do it.

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                        • zerush@lemmy.mlZ [email protected]

                          Yes, but even more important to avoid sync with an Mozilla account, if you need the sync function (maybe Filen?) (Vivaldi has an own sync EE2E)

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                          I just switched to Bitwarden for passwords

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                          • zerush@lemmy.mlZ [email protected]

                            You give Mozilla all rights necessary to operate Firefox, including processing data as we describe in the Firefox Privacy Notice, as well as acting on your behalf to help you navigate the internet. When you upload or input information through Firefox, you hereby grant us a nonexclusive, royalty-free, worldwide license to use that information to help you navigate, experience, and interact with online content as you indicate with your use of Firefox.

                            https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/about/legal/terms/firefox/

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                            What's the best alternative? This doesn't sound great.....

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                            • swab148@startrek.websiteS [email protected]

                              I just switched to Bitwarden for passwords

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                              That's the best free option, and possibly best option overall. I've been with them for about five years now and it's been great.

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                              • umbrella@lemmy.mlU [email protected]

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                                You can, but the last time I did that the instructions were incomplete, and you still had to auth through Mozilla. That was a few years ago, so things might have changed since then.

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                                  No, we all got the pi = march 14 part, but WTF does that have to do with anything?

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                                  It's not just March 14th, it's also our next lunar eclipse, peak eclipse at about 1:59am...

                                  3.14159

                                  I set alarms in my watch months ago, before ever learning how that date is also going to affect technology and security certificates and shit.

                                  I do hope the weather will be nice early that morning to be able to see the π lunar eclipse at least.

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                                    Bring back ham radios.

                                    Ah shit I'm too introverted to use my voice...

                                    Data packets through radio?

                                    Btw: Rattlegram is a Android/iOS app that can convert text to audio, which you can then play over a ham radio. You can use encryption before you paste the ciphertext into Rattlegram. (Encryption over radio is illegal in many jurisdictions tho... 🏴‍☠️)

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                                    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/M17_(amateur_radio)

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                                    • zerush@lemmy.mlZ [email protected]

                                      Yes, but also non existent US privacy policy. Ther the users are simply raw material for the benefit of large corporations, to make America great again. The EU at least put limits to these abuses.

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                                        AFAIK the sync is end to end encrypted

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                                        Yes, Mozilla sync is encrypted, but your account data is sended to Alphabet (Google) and tracked by googleanalytics and google-tagmanager.

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                                          The problem of using blink is that then you give more power to google. They are the ones developing it, so they can decide what goes in it... cough jpegxl cough...

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                                          Yes, Google can decide what goes in it, but because it's FOSS, any other can decide what to delete from it. The power of Google isn't Chromium, but the Chrome Store, it's services, and all Websites which use Google APIs. Vivaldi has less relations with Google than Mozilla/Firefox, it don't have third party investors or sponsors, like Mozilla, which depends on Google ads and money and recently also from another advertising company, loosing it's independence with it.

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