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VSCode is just Emacs with a weirder Lisp. (/s)
(You can tear my Emacs from my cold dead hands)
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You guys use editors? Real programmers only need a mechanical hard drive, a magnetized needle and a steady hand.
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Helix crew
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Most of their IDEs you can use for free for non-commercial purposes and even if you need to buy them; when you compare software development to any other profession our tools are incredibly cheap. You can get all the Jetbrains IDEs for less than 300€. Compare that to a HDL simulator or a 3D CAD application like Autodesk. These easily cost several thousand euros each year.
You mean subscribe to them right? You can't buy Jetbrains products to use in perpetuity. I pay for their all products pack. They have a 40% continuity discount after two years, which is nice. I would agree they aren't terribly expensive for commercial software, but they are competing in a space full of free and/or open source alternatives, unlike many production-level commercial softwares.
That being said, their AI integration features are awful across the board, whether it's their own AI or copilot.
And while I much prefer jetbrains stuff to something like vscode, it's way more about UI uniformity for me. VS Code extensions outside the top 20 tend to slap themselves wherever they want, with html/css dialogues that don't fit the UI, and there's often like 6 versions of an extension that's like "this one is deprecated, but also the other one is deprecated, but the new one is made by microsoft but it's actually 3 extensions now." Whereas generally jetbrains extensions fit within my action panel, toolbar items, and can move widgets to different sides of the UI so that version control stuff, code analysis/structure stuff, external integration/database stuff, and project trees all get their own dedicated part of the workspace
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IntelliJ? That's on you for using Java
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IntelliJ? That's on you for using Java
I can’t remember the last time I had to install a plugin for any JetBrains IDE. You thinking of Visual Studio Code?!
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Helix crew
Reporting in! 🫡
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quietly scoots his entire github repo for his neovim configuration and 200+ plugins behind his back
Haha yeah totally
What on earth do you need/use 200+ plugins for? Can you name a tenth of the uses off-hand?
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what did the /d do? I know you're searching for weak spot but I haven't seen :g/xyc/d
d for delete.
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You mean subscribe to them right? You can't buy Jetbrains products to use in perpetuity. I pay for their all products pack. They have a 40% continuity discount after two years, which is nice. I would agree they aren't terribly expensive for commercial software, but they are competing in a space full of free and/or open source alternatives, unlike many production-level commercial softwares.
That being said, their AI integration features are awful across the board, whether it's their own AI or copilot.
And while I much prefer jetbrains stuff to something like vscode, it's way more about UI uniformity for me. VS Code extensions outside the top 20 tend to slap themselves wherever they want, with html/css dialogues that don't fit the UI, and there's often like 6 versions of an extension that's like "this one is deprecated, but also the other one is deprecated, but the new one is made by microsoft but it's actually 3 extensions now." Whereas generally jetbrains extensions fit within my action panel, toolbar items, and can move widgets to different sides of the UI so that version control stuff, code analysis/structure stuff, external integration/database stuff, and project trees all get their own dedicated part of the workspace
You can just buy them for one year and keep using the perpetual fallback license. Also, they can fuck right off with their planet incinerating automatic plagiarism chat bots.
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Switched to Zed recently, after finding out it's basically flawless on Linux now (it was pretty bad initially) and after about 20 minutes uninstalled vscodium for good.
It's a very solid editor and one less electron thing on my system.I like Zed as a concept. Rapid af, vim bindings built in, lean stuff.
But I just can't go back to vim after enjoying helix bindings. They're too good.
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IntelliJ? That's on you for using Java
Honestly I think I like Java better than C++ because with all that complexity at least you get memory safety, actually readable errors, and portable code. C# is great but Linux support is spotty.
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You guys use editors? Real programmers only need a mechanical hard drive, a magnetized needle and a steady hand.
or: C-x M-c M-butterfly
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Same. I use VSCode at work, because we need some of the features that are premium in Jetbrains products and the licenses are too expensive for my company.
If your work can’t afford less than $20/seat/month for business-critical software, I’d start looking for a new job because your paychecks are about to dry up, anyway.
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Pyright is the open source language server behind pylance and it works just fine in my neovim setup (in case you hadn't recognized the commands and the logo).
There's also basedpyright if you have beef with pyright.Protip: let someone else manage your neovim setup: just use lazyvim.org
basedpyright includes some nice features that Microsoft has otherwise gated behind the closed source Pylance. There's also (in development) ty from Astral that I'm pretty excited for (ruff and uv have made writing python so much better for me).
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Lol wow, intelliJ? Shit's slow as fuck
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Switched to Zed recently, after finding out it's basically flawless on Linux now (it was pretty bad initially) and after about 20 minutes uninstalled vscodium for good.
It's a very solid editor and one less electron thing on my system.Sounds like a rash decision.
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Switched to Zed recently, after finding out it's basically flawless on Linux now (it was pretty bad initially) and after about 20 minutes uninstalled vscodium for good.
It's a very solid editor and one less electron thing on my system.I've known Zed for almost a year now, but it still lacks a lot of what VS Code offers. Especially when it comes to customization.
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What on earth do you need/use 200+ plugins for? Can you name a tenth of the uses off-hand?
A lot of them are dependencies of other plugins.
Stuff like icons support, and every little feature. Neovim is extremely minimalist to start, so you need plugins just to get something as simple as a scrollbar lol
Things like git status of files and file lines, all your LSPs, syntax highlighting (for each language you work with), file explorer, you name it, there's a lot.
But what's nice about nvim is for any of these given features, there's numerous options to pick from. Theres probably a dozen options to choose from for what kind of scrollbar you want in your editor, as an example.
So you end up with a huge amount of plugins in the end, for all your custom stuff you have configured.
You have to setup yourself (though theres a lot of very solid copy pasteable recipes for each feature):
- Scrollbar
- Tabs(if you want em)
- bookmarking
- every LSP
- treesitter
- navigation (possibly multiple of them, I use both a file tree, telescope, and harpoon)
- file history stuff
- git integrations, including integrating it with the numerous other plugins you use (many of them can integrate with git for stuff like status icons)
- Code commenting/uncommenting
- Code comment tags (IE TODO/BUG/HACK/etc)
- your package manager is also a package (I like lazy for wicked fast open speeds, neovim opens in under 1s for me)
- hotkey management (I like to use
which-key) - prose plugins (lots of great options here too, I use nvim for more than just coding!)
- neorg, so I can use nvim for taking notes, scheduling stuff, etc too
- debugger via
nvim-dap - debugger UI via
nvim-dap-ui - lualine, which is a popular statusline plugin people like to have at the bottom of their IDE for general file info
new-file-templatewhich lets me create templates for new files by extension (IE when I make a.csfile and start editting it, I can pick from numerous templates I've made to start from, same for .ts, .lua, etc etc)- git conflict, which can detect and work with detected git merge conflict sections in any type of file and give me hotkeys to do stuff like pick A / B / Both / Neither, that sorta stuff
The list goes on and on haha
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For real.
