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  • rikudou@lemmings.worldR [email protected]
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    #15

    Plugins on a universal open source IDE are a better system than specialised proprietary IDEs (that also share "core" code but it's not open source).

    Fight me.

    Fair warning though: I know these

    /weakSpot
    :g/your confidence/d
    :x
    

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      NGL I'd use jetbrainz products more if they weren't that pricey and more portable

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      They run out of memory (JetBrainlet)

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      • e8d79@discuss.tchncs.deE [email protected]

        Most of their IDEs you can use for free for non-commercial purposes and even if you need to buy them; when you compare software development to any other profession our tools are incredibly cheap. You can get all the Jetbrains IDEs for less than 300€. Compare that to a HDL simulator or a 3D CAD application like Autodesk. These easily cost several thousand euros each year.

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        Autocad costs that much because Autodesk behaves anti-competitively and has locked firms into their proprietary tooling / file formats / training and the firms have no choice but to keep paying them.

        Their predatory behaviour towards the engineering industry is literally why I taught myself programming and switched to software development.

        They are a prime example of why you shouldn't build your company around closed source proprietary software, but open source software that can be forked or self hosted in a worst case scenario.

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          NGL I'd use jetbrainz products more if they weren't that pricey and more portable

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          Oh sorry, I made a mistake. It's named "JetBraian"

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            Plugins on a universal open source IDE are a better system than specialised proprietary IDEs (that also share "core" code but it's not open source).

            Fight me.

            Fair warning though: I know these

            /weakSpot
            :g/your confidence/d
            :x
            

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            Btw, pylance is proprietary. There's Kylin for jedi as alternative.

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              They work without it though

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              I don’t think I’ve ever used the launcher

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              • sailorzoop@lemmy.librebun.comS [email protected]

                Switched to Zed recently, after finding out it's basically flawless on Linux now (it was pretty bad initially) and after about 20 minutes uninstalled vscodium for good.
                It's a very solid editor and one less electron thing on my system.

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                Oh, cool. I didn't know about this one.

                Trying Zed now on the eternal quest of eventually replacing emacs...

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                  I would argue it's worse. You can't choose the things that are actually beneficial to you and how you work.

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                  You can, they are not built in but bundled

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                  • bleistift2@sopuli.xyzB [email protected]

                    Yes, I’d rather have 35 different IDEs for every task I need to do. Much better than One To Rule Them All.

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                    With their products one can have it either way

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                      Btw, pylance is proprietary. There's Kylin for jedi as alternative.

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                      Pyright is the open source language server behind pylance and it works just fine in my neovim setup (in case you hadn't recognized the commands and the logo).
                      There's also basedpyright if you have beef with pyright.

                      Protip: let someone else manage your neovim setup: just use lazyvim.org

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                        Same. I use VSCode at work, because we need some of the features that are premium in Jetbrains products and the licenses are too expensive for my company.

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                        Core development tools licenses are too expensive? That's an odd company or from a very low standard country?

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                          Same. I use VSCode at work, because we need some of the features that are premium in Jetbrains products and the licenses are too expensive for my company.

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                          Tell your boss that it's even more expensive to have your foot up his ass. And tell it like Red Foreman

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                          • sailorzoop@lemmy.librebun.comS [email protected]

                            Switched to Zed recently, after finding out it's basically flawless on Linux now (it was pretty bad initially) and after about 20 minutes uninstalled vscodium for good.
                            It's a very solid editor and one less electron thing on my system.

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                            I've been experimenting with it on Linux for the last week. Seems interesting, I get mixed feelings from it's minimalist approach, but I tend to use it.
                            I'll keep it around, looks like it'll stick w me

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                              Plugins on a universal open source IDE are a better system than specialised proprietary IDEs (that also share "core" code but it's not open source).

                              Fight me.

                              Fair warning though: I know these

                              /weakSpot
                              :g/your confidence/d
                              :x
                              

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                              what did the /d do? I know you're searching for weak spot but I haven't seen :g/xyc/d

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                              • rikudou@lemmings.worldR [email protected]
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                                VSCode is just Emacs with a weirder Lisp. (/s)

                                (You can tear my Emacs from my cold dead hands)

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                                  You guys use editors? Real programmers only need a mechanical hard drive, a magnetized needle and a steady hand.

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                                  • rikudou@lemmings.worldR [email protected]
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                                    Helix crew

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                                    • e8d79@discuss.tchncs.deE [email protected]

                                      Most of their IDEs you can use for free for non-commercial purposes and even if you need to buy them; when you compare software development to any other profession our tools are incredibly cheap. You can get all the Jetbrains IDEs for less than 300€. Compare that to a HDL simulator or a 3D CAD application like Autodesk. These easily cost several thousand euros each year.

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                                      You mean subscribe to them right? You can't buy Jetbrains products to use in perpetuity. I pay for their all products pack. They have a 40% continuity discount after two years, which is nice. I would agree they aren't terribly expensive for commercial software, but they are competing in a space full of free and/or open source alternatives, unlike many production-level commercial softwares.

                                      That being said, their AI integration features are awful across the board, whether it's their own AI or copilot.

                                      And while I much prefer jetbrains stuff to something like vscode, it's way more about UI uniformity for me. VS Code extensions outside the top 20 tend to slap themselves wherever they want, with html/css dialogues that don't fit the UI, and there's often like 6 versions of an extension that's like "this one is deprecated, but also the other one is deprecated, but the new one is made by microsoft but it's actually 3 extensions now." Whereas generally jetbrains extensions fit within my action panel, toolbar items, and can move widgets to different sides of the UI so that version control stuff, code analysis/structure stuff, external integration/database stuff, and project trees all get their own dedicated part of the workspace

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                                        IntelliJ? That's on you for using Java

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                                          IntelliJ? That's on you for using Java

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                                          I can’t remember the last time I had to install a plugin for any JetBrains IDE. You thinking of Visual Studio Code?!

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