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    NGL I'd use jetbrainz products more if they weren't that pricey and more portable

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    Arent they like $100/yr a pop? Thats less than what adobe charges for photoshop.

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    • rikudou@lemmings.worldR [email protected]
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      quietly scoots his entire github repo for his neovim configuration and 200+ plugins behind his back

      Haha yeah totally

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      • bleistift2@sopuli.xyzB [email protected]

        Yes, I’d rather have 35 different IDEs for every task I need to do. Much better than One To Rule Them All.

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        I also don't have any ties to a specific editor. I use whichever is most convenient at the moment. But I avoid paid IDEs.

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        • R [email protected]

          NGL I'd use jetbrainz products more if they weren't that pricey and more portable

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          Most of their IDEs you can use for free for non-commercial purposes and even if you need to buy them; when you compare software development to any other profession our tools are incredibly cheap. You can get all the Jetbrains IDEs for less than 300€. Compare that to a HDL simulator or a 3D CAD application like Autodesk. These easily cost several thousand euros each year.

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          • kindaabigdyl@programming.devK [email protected]

            Having bunch of plugins built-in is not any better than having a bunch of plugins

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            I would argue it's worse. You can't choose the things that are actually beneficial to you and how you work.

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              Plugins on a universal open source IDE are a better system than specialised proprietary IDEs (that also share "core" code but it's not open source).

              Fight me.

              Fair warning though: I know these

              /weakSpot
              :g/your confidence/d
              :x
              

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              • R [email protected]

                NGL I'd use jetbrainz products more if they weren't that pricey and more portable

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                They run out of memory (JetBrainlet)

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                • e8d79@discuss.tchncs.deE [email protected]

                  Most of their IDEs you can use for free for non-commercial purposes and even if you need to buy them; when you compare software development to any other profession our tools are incredibly cheap. You can get all the Jetbrains IDEs for less than 300€. Compare that to a HDL simulator or a 3D CAD application like Autodesk. These easily cost several thousand euros each year.

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                  Autocad costs that much because Autodesk behaves anti-competitively and has locked firms into their proprietary tooling / file formats / training and the firms have no choice but to keep paying them.

                  Their predatory behaviour towards the engineering industry is literally why I taught myself programming and switched to software development.

                  They are a prime example of why you shouldn't build your company around closed source proprietary software, but open source software that can be forked or self hosted in a worst case scenario.

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                  • R [email protected]

                    NGL I'd use jetbrainz products more if they weren't that pricey and more portable

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                    Oh sorry, I made a mistake. It's named "JetBraian"

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                    • F [email protected]

                      Plugins on a universal open source IDE are a better system than specialised proprietary IDEs (that also share "core" code but it's not open source).

                      Fight me.

                      Fair warning though: I know these

                      /weakSpot
                      :g/your confidence/d
                      :x
                      

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                      Btw, pylance is proprietary. There's Kylin for jedi as alternative.

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                        They work without it though

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                        I don’t think I’ve ever used the launcher

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                        • sailorzoop@lemmy.librebun.comS [email protected]

                          Switched to Zed recently, after finding out it's basically flawless on Linux now (it was pretty bad initially) and after about 20 minutes uninstalled vscodium for good.
                          It's a very solid editor and one less electron thing on my system.

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                          Oh, cool. I didn't know about this one.

                          Trying Zed now on the eternal quest of eventually replacing emacs...

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                          • F [email protected]

                            I would argue it's worse. You can't choose the things that are actually beneficial to you and how you work.

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                            You can, they are not built in but bundled

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                            • bleistift2@sopuli.xyzB [email protected]

                              Yes, I’d rather have 35 different IDEs for every task I need to do. Much better than One To Rule Them All.

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                              With their products one can have it either way

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                              • M [email protected]

                                Btw, pylance is proprietary. There's Kylin for jedi as alternative.

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                                Pyright is the open source language server behind pylance and it works just fine in my neovim setup (in case you hadn't recognized the commands and the logo).
                                There's also basedpyright if you have beef with pyright.

                                Protip: let someone else manage your neovim setup: just use lazyvim.org

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                                • D [email protected]

                                  Same. I use VSCode at work, because we need some of the features that are premium in Jetbrains products and the licenses are too expensive for my company.

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                                  Core development tools licenses are too expensive? That's an odd company or from a very low standard country?

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                                  • D [email protected]

                                    Same. I use VSCode at work, because we need some of the features that are premium in Jetbrains products and the licenses are too expensive for my company.

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                                    Tell your boss that it's even more expensive to have your foot up his ass. And tell it like Red Foreman

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                                    • sailorzoop@lemmy.librebun.comS [email protected]

                                      Switched to Zed recently, after finding out it's basically flawless on Linux now (it was pretty bad initially) and after about 20 minutes uninstalled vscodium for good.
                                      It's a very solid editor and one less electron thing on my system.

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                                      I've been experimenting with it on Linux for the last week. Seems interesting, I get mixed feelings from it's minimalist approach, but I tend to use it.
                                      I'll keep it around, looks like it'll stick w me

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                                      • F [email protected]

                                        Plugins on a universal open source IDE are a better system than specialised proprietary IDEs (that also share "core" code but it's not open source).

                                        Fight me.

                                        Fair warning though: I know these

                                        /weakSpot
                                        :g/your confidence/d
                                        :x
                                        

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                                        what did the /d do? I know you're searching for weak spot but I haven't seen :g/xyc/d

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                                        • rikudou@lemmings.worldR [email protected]
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                                          VSCode is just Emacs with a weirder Lisp. (/s)

                                          (You can tear my Emacs from my cold dead hands)

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