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    i feel like the odd one out whenever i tell people i dont want the shitty ide launcher for jetbrains products on my computer. i havent used their products because of that launcher.

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      NGL I'd use jetbrainz products more if they weren't that pricey and more portable

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        i feel like the odd one out whenever i tell people i dont want the shitty ide launcher for jetbrains products on my computer. i havent used their products because of that launcher.

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        They work without it though

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          Switched to Zed recently, after finding out it's basically flawless on Linux now (it was pretty bad initially) and after about 20 minutes uninstalled vscodium for good.
          It's a very solid editor and one less electron thing on my system.

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          • rikudou@lemmings.worldR [email protected]
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            Having bunch of plugins built-in is not any better than having a bunch of plugins

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              Yes, I’d rather have 35 different IDEs for every task I need to do. Much better than One To Rule Them All.

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                NGL I'd use jetbrainz products more if they weren't that pricey and more portable

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                Same. I use VSCode at work, because we need some of the features that are premium in Jetbrains products and the licenses are too expensive for my company.

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                  NGL I'd use jetbrainz products more if they weren't that pricey and more portable

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                  Arent they like $100/yr a pop? Thats less than what adobe charges for photoshop.

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                  • rikudou@lemmings.worldR [email protected]
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                    quietly scoots his entire github repo for his neovim configuration and 200+ plugins behind his back

                    Haha yeah totally

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                    • bleistift2@sopuli.xyzB [email protected]

                      Yes, I’d rather have 35 different IDEs for every task I need to do. Much better than One To Rule Them All.

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                      I also don't have any ties to a specific editor. I use whichever is most convenient at the moment. But I avoid paid IDEs.

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                        NGL I'd use jetbrainz products more if they weren't that pricey and more portable

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                        Most of their IDEs you can use for free for non-commercial purposes and even if you need to buy them; when you compare software development to any other profession our tools are incredibly cheap. You can get all the Jetbrains IDEs for less than 300€. Compare that to a HDL simulator or a 3D CAD application like Autodesk. These easily cost several thousand euros each year.

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                        • kindaabigdyl@programming.devK [email protected]

                          Having bunch of plugins built-in is not any better than having a bunch of plugins

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                          I would argue it's worse. You can't choose the things that are actually beneficial to you and how you work.

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                          • rikudou@lemmings.worldR [email protected]
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                            Plugins on a universal open source IDE are a better system than specialised proprietary IDEs (that also share "core" code but it's not open source).

                            Fight me.

                            Fair warning though: I know these

                            /weakSpot
                            :g/your confidence/d
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                              NGL I'd use jetbrainz products more if they weren't that pricey and more portable

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                              They run out of memory (JetBrainlet)

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                                Most of their IDEs you can use for free for non-commercial purposes and even if you need to buy them; when you compare software development to any other profession our tools are incredibly cheap. You can get all the Jetbrains IDEs for less than 300€. Compare that to a HDL simulator or a 3D CAD application like Autodesk. These easily cost several thousand euros each year.

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                                Autocad costs that much because Autodesk behaves anti-competitively and has locked firms into their proprietary tooling / file formats / training and the firms have no choice but to keep paying them.

                                Their predatory behaviour towards the engineering industry is literally why I taught myself programming and switched to software development.

                                They are a prime example of why you shouldn't build your company around closed source proprietary software, but open source software that can be forked or self hosted in a worst case scenario.

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                                  NGL I'd use jetbrainz products more if they weren't that pricey and more portable

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                                  Oh sorry, I made a mistake. It's named "JetBraian"

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                                    Plugins on a universal open source IDE are a better system than specialised proprietary IDEs (that also share "core" code but it's not open source).

                                    Fight me.

                                    Fair warning though: I know these

                                    /weakSpot
                                    :g/your confidence/d
                                    :x
                                    

                                    Neovim logo

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                                    Btw, pylance is proprietary. There's Kylin for jedi as alternative.

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                                      They work without it though

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                                      I don’t think I’ve ever used the launcher

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                                      • sailorzoop@lemmy.librebun.comS [email protected]

                                        Switched to Zed recently, after finding out it's basically flawless on Linux now (it was pretty bad initially) and after about 20 minutes uninstalled vscodium for good.
                                        It's a very solid editor and one less electron thing on my system.

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                                        Oh, cool. I didn't know about this one.

                                        Trying Zed now on the eternal quest of eventually replacing emacs...

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                                          I would argue it's worse. You can't choose the things that are actually beneficial to you and how you work.

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                                          You can, they are not built in but bundled

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