Google Messages will help you shame your friends into finally turning on RCS (APK teardown)
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Fuck RCS.
Twenty years too late for a "protocol" that is bound to hardware - something we decided was a bad idea forty years ago, and part of why TCP/IP became the standard.
XMPP is a far better protocol, and has had all the features of RCS for 20 years.
I will never use RCS.
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Means nothing to me until there is an open source option for RCS. It is supposed to be an open standard, but in reality Google has a total stranglehold on the technology.
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if you want me to turn on rcs then let it work with my google fi connected account where i can get my voicemails on the web
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Have you been living under a rock the past 10 years? If you think 95% of users give a single shit about E2E, you have a vastly better view of humanity than I do.
Perhaps a better word would be
Why should anyone use this?
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Fuck this. Fuck google. I use their shit at work and it sucks, leave me alone at home.
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Reading the comments here has me like:
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Google should open it up for other apps to use. Otherwise RCS is a power grab
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Google should open it up for other apps to use. Otherwise RCS is a power grab
Yup, no way I'm enabling play services and installing Messages just to use RCS. I mostly use Signal, anyway.
What we should really be fighting for is more federation between messaging platforms.
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Fuck RCS.
Twenty years too late for a "protocol" that is bound to hardware - something we decided was a bad idea forty years ago, and part of why TCP/IP became the standard.
XMPP is a far better protocol, and has had all the features of RCS for 20 years.
I will never use RCS.
XMPP does have something that breaks my heart: it bounds encryption to a very specific client. So forget about migrating to something else and keeping your history somehow. Which is very sad for supposedly interoperable protocol.
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I turned it off when it failed to failover to sms when there was no data connection.
Are both me and the recipient online? Send RCS. Are either of us not connected? Send sms. How is that so hard?
Otherwise RCS is just "worse SMS for people with intermittent data connectivity".
Because SMS costs money everywhere else and the world is not the US.
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Google should open it up for other apps to use. Otherwise RCS is a power grab
It is abuse of the dualopoly
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Yup, no way I'm enabling play services and installing Messages just to use RCS. I mostly use Signal, anyway.
What we should really be fighting for is more federation between messaging platforms.
wrote last edited by [email protected]Federation can be hard since you also need to protect privacy
With that bring said they could at least try. Honestly it would be better if we got some sort of RFC.
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Means nothing to me until there is an open source option for RCS. It is supposed to be an open standard, but in reality Google has a total stranglehold on the technology.
wrote last edited by [email protected]Google wants to eliminate any threat of competition outside of Apple and stock Android
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Fuck RCS.
Twenty years too late for a "protocol" that is bound to hardware - something we decided was a bad idea forty years ago, and part of why TCP/IP became the standard.
XMPP is a far better protocol, and has had all the features of RCS for 20 years.
I will never use RCS.
XMPP is for grey beards
We need something clean and modern
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Because SMS costs money everywhere else and the world is not the US.
That would be a reason for the feature not being available.
The feature is there, it just apparently doesn't always work reliably.
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No thanks, I think I'll pass on sending out messages that look like spam.
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XMPP does have something that breaks my heart: it bounds encryption to a very specific client. So forget about migrating to something else and keeping your history somehow. Which is very sad for supposedly interoperable protocol.
Are you talking about omemo and a scenario where you buy a new device and want to sync your entire history from the server?
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"Better then ever" is a bold claim. I switched to GrapheneOS and guess what it stopped working. Why? Because Google decided not to make it work on custom OS's anymore like a year ago.
To my understanding there is NO real technical reason for this. If I can have Signal work cross platform (a real secure messenger) then RCS can as well.
wrote last edited by [email protected]There are ways to make it work on graphene, but yes - it doesn't work out of the box.
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Are you talking about omemo and a scenario where you buy a new device and want to sync your entire history from the server?
You don't even need another device. You might just want to try another client app. You'd be screwed. That's very, very sad.
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You don't even need another device. You might just want to try another client app. You'd be screwed. That's very, very sad.
That is how perfect forward secrecy is supposed to work.
