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Google Messages will help you shame your friends into finally turning on RCS (APK teardown)

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      Pushed by carriers, no E2E yet, Google. Why would anyone use this?

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        Pushed by carriers, no E2E yet, Google. Why would anyone use this?

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        Is it only google approved operating systems still? I remember they weren't allowing people on non google signed android forks to use it?

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          "Better then ever" is a bold claim. I switched to GrapheneOS and guess what it stopped working. Why? Because Google decided not to make it work on custom OS's anymore like a year ago.

          To my understanding there is NO real technical reason for this. If I can have Signal work cross platform (a real secure messenger) then RCS can as well.

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            It's time to get with the RCS program, already!

            Tell that to my MVNO 😮‍💨

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              Pushed by carriers, no E2E yet, Google. Why would anyone use this?

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              Have you been living under a rock the past 10 years? If you think 95% of users give a single shit about E2E, you have a vastly better view of humanity than I do.

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                SMS works perfectly well for sending https://signal.org/install

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                  I turned it off when it failed to failover to sms when there was no data connection.

                  Are both me and the recipient online? Send RCS. Are either of us not connected? Send sms. How is that so hard?

                  Otherwise RCS is just "worse SMS for people with intermittent data connectivity".

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                    Fuck RCS.

                    Twenty years too late for a "protocol" that is bound to hardware - something we decided was a bad idea forty years ago, and part of why TCP/IP became the standard.

                    XMPP is a far better protocol, and has had all the features of RCS for 20 years.

                    I will never use RCS.

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                      Means nothing to me until there is an open source option for RCS. It is supposed to be an open standard, but in reality Google has a total stranglehold on the technology.

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                        if you want me to turn on rcs then let it work with my google fi connected account where i can get my voicemails on the web

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                          Perhaps a better word would be

                          Why should anyone use this?

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                            Fuck this. Fuck google. I use their shit at work and it sucks, leave me alone at home.

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                              Reading the comments here has me like:
                              Woman sitting in the dark saying "I
am so proud of this community. Screenshot from the last Youtube Rewind.

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                                Google should open it up for other apps to use. Otherwise RCS is a power grab

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                                  Google should open it up for other apps to use. Otherwise RCS is a power grab

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                                  Yup, no way I'm enabling play services and installing Messages just to use RCS. I mostly use Signal, anyway.

                                  What we should really be fighting for is more federation between messaging platforms.

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                                    Fuck RCS.

                                    Twenty years too late for a "protocol" that is bound to hardware - something we decided was a bad idea forty years ago, and part of why TCP/IP became the standard.

                                    XMPP is a far better protocol, and has had all the features of RCS for 20 years.

                                    I will never use RCS.

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                                    XMPP does have something that breaks my heart: it bounds encryption to a very specific client. So forget about migrating to something else and keeping your history somehow. Which is very sad for supposedly interoperable protocol.

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                                      I turned it off when it failed to failover to sms when there was no data connection.

                                      Are both me and the recipient online? Send RCS. Are either of us not connected? Send sms. How is that so hard?

                                      Otherwise RCS is just "worse SMS for people with intermittent data connectivity".

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                                      Because SMS costs money everywhere else and the world is not the US.

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                                        Google should open it up for other apps to use. Otherwise RCS is a power grab

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                                        It is abuse of the dualopoly

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                                          Yup, no way I'm enabling play services and installing Messages just to use RCS. I mostly use Signal, anyway.

                                          What we should really be fighting for is more federation between messaging platforms.

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                                          Federation can be hard since you also need to protect privacy

                                          With that bring said they could at least try. Honestly it would be better if we got some sort of RFC.

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