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  • E [email protected]

    You’re an information technology?

    the16bitgamer@programming.devT This user is from outside of this forum
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    Mr information technology to you

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    • tetris11@feddit.ukT [email protected]

      Weird. Also a Pixel4a user (condolences to both of us), but I had LineageOS on mine and was rooted, but I've had no software updates. I get reminders from LineageOS that a new build is available, but I just swipe right because if it ain't broke don't fix

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      Lineage and graphene don't force updates. They could but that's not their mo. If they did they would presumably lose 90% of their users.

      Stock android even if rooted easily can and does force updates.

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        What do you have for a tinkering device, if I may ask?

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        Well, my old phone, with LineageOS. It is a OnePlus 8, but I probably wouldn't recommended OnePlus phones generally, I was hopeing that it eventually get mainline treatment, like the 6T, but that hasn't happen yet.

        I rooted it for managing battery charge limits, among other stuff. Having a root shell in termux makes debugging or fixing app and other issues very easy.

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        • K [email protected]

          If PCs came out today there is no way you would just be allowed to install Linux on it.

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          don't give them ideas

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            Lineage and graphene don't force updates. They could but that's not their mo. If they did they would presumably lose 90% of their users.

            Stock android even if rooted easily can and does force updates.

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            oh right true, that's the issue -- stock android

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            • umbrella@lemmy.mlU [email protected]

              locked bootloaders and complicated processes to getting phones changed are crimes against humanity layman can't really perceive.

              wish i had solutions.

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              I guess it would be good to have consumer petitions demand phones with unlocked bootloaders.

              Edit: this inspired me to write this post.

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              • gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.deG [email protected]

                I guess it would be good to have consumer petitions demand phones with unlocked bootloaders.

                Edit: this inspired me to write this post.

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                or make our own phones equipped with blackjack and hookers after we take it over from the oligarchy

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                • thann@lemmy.dbzer0.comT [email protected]

                  You dont own something unless you install linux on it

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                  Are you telling me Linux doesn't have automatic updates?

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                    Are you telling me Linux doesn't have automatic updates?

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                    It does not. No normal Linux distro installs updates without user consent. You can turn that feature on though if you like.

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                    • L [email protected]

                      "If we let you control your phones you'll just mess them up!"

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                      wasn't there also some concern about messing up the radio communication for a lot of users?

                      the idea was that you actually can't mess with radio communications. if you send too much data, it kinda clogs the airspace of radio frequencies and that' actually illegal to do in many countries. rooting the android phone lets you access the radio antenna directly, and you can't let playful nerds mess up the city's mobile internet for a million inhabitants every other day. especially since the source of interference would be hard to track down.

                      Now i wonder what that would mean for mobile internet usb peripherals that you can plug into linux laptop and desktop machines. how do they solve this issue?

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                      • natenate60@lemmy.worldN [email protected]

                        As it is right now, my cell phone replaces a collection of about six plastic cards. I have not yet found a wieldy phone case that has space to store payment cards.

                        Realistically, this question could also be asked with cash. If you're going to be pulling out a wallet-like item anyway, and you are that concerned with privacy, why not go with anonymous, fee-free, secure, actually offline paper money? Card processing is not offline. The card machine has to be connected to the Internet for it to work (offline card processing theoretically exists, but is not widely implemented enough to rely on and is not particularly secure).

                        If people are going to argue that wanting to pay with a cell phone instead of a plastic card makes me lazy because the card takes a few extra seconds to use compare to the phone, I'm going to argue in turn that they're lazy for using a card when using cash, with all of its privacy benefits, also only takes a few seconds more.

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                        How can you spend time thinking about phones, when there are children starving to death in Africa! See, I am can do that too.

                        Besides, I do carry cash for everyday expenses, and I do prefer cash. I don't know where you got that idea from.

                        But the question was to replace tap-to-pay. Sadly, tapping people with a fiver makes them irritated at best.

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                        • N [email protected]

                          https://infosec.exchange/@ryanc/114901140203859448

                          i recomend this ancient talk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUEvRyemKSg

                          https://redirect.invidious.io/watch?v=HUEvRyemKSg

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                          yeah, i bet you can ask women who work in the tech industry about their understanding of consent and get some colorful responses.

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                          • H [email protected]

                            Are you telling me Linux doesn't have automatic updates?

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                            I'm using linux mint, which is beginner friendly.
                            It doesn't have automatic updates as default.

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                            • S [email protected]

                              What about it isn't viable? Genuinely curious

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                              I can’t use it stock because cell providers can push bullshit apps I don’t want without my permission and I can’t fully disable Gemini. Switching to grapheneOS addresses those concerns, but cause new problems, like killing tap to pay and triggering security flags on games and banking apps.

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                              • L [email protected]

                                How can you spend time thinking about phones, when there are children starving to death in Africa! See, I am can do that too.

                                Besides, I do carry cash for everyday expenses, and I do prefer cash. I don't know where you got that idea from.

                                But the question was to replace tap-to-pay. Sadly, tapping people with a fiver makes them irritated at best.

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                                I've got nothing against you. I'm just not willing to accept a lecture (from other people, not you) about being "lazy" for wanting tap-to-pay on my cell phone. My statement is that the convenience of tap-to-pay for payment cards and transit passes is not worth the otherwise marginal privacy benefit of switching to Graphene.

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                                • gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.deG [email protected]

                                  wasn't there also some concern about messing up the radio communication for a lot of users?

                                  the idea was that you actually can't mess with radio communications. if you send too much data, it kinda clogs the airspace of radio frequencies and that' actually illegal to do in many countries. rooting the android phone lets you access the radio antenna directly, and you can't let playful nerds mess up the city's mobile internet for a million inhabitants every other day. especially since the source of interference would be hard to track down.

                                  Now i wonder what that would mean for mobile internet usb peripherals that you can plug into linux laptop and desktop machines. how do they solve this issue?

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                                  Rooting the phone means playful nerds could potentially mess up radio frequencies, but they can already do that because they can build radios using readily available electronic components. We already have all kinds of regulations about radio use, and we go after people who actually cause problems.

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                                  • E [email protected]

                                    You’re an information technology?

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                                    Sewer clown.

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                                    • H [email protected]

                                      Are you telling me Linux doesn't have automatic updates?

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                                      Sure it does, if you turn them on. Here's the relevant screen in Linux Mint Cinnamon.

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                                      • muusemuuse@sh.itjust.worksM [email protected]

                                        I can’t use it stock because cell providers can push bullshit apps I don’t want without my permission and I can’t fully disable Gemini. Switching to grapheneOS addresses those concerns, but cause new problems, like killing tap to pay and triggering security flags on games and banking apps.

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                                        Yeah that's a fair point. Some android models do have minimal or none bloatware, like Google pixel... But also then papa Google owns your ass lol

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                                        • N [email protected]

                                          https://infosec.exchange/@ryanc/114901140203859448

                                          i recomend this ancient talk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUEvRyemKSg

                                          https://redirect.invidious.io/watch?v=HUEvRyemKSg

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                                          As Louis Rossman puts it: rape mentality

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