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  • J [email protected]

    Also, everyone hated the UI in Vista at the time.

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    I hated XP’s FisherPrice UI as well…

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      Ohhhhhhhhhh I get it! They called it Vista like a view, like something you would see out of a window (I am not very smart)

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      • miguel@fedia.ioM [email protected]

        IMO, it's all about giving the user control. KDE's transparency/translucency controls are the bare minimum. Apple hates giving users choices, though, so I hope they do ok for those folks.

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        Yeah, I've always hated that about Apple, and I primarily use Apple products. They have opened up a little bit in the last few years though. Like in macOS you can choose from a few different accent colors, you can turn borders on around buttons (I think that's a contrast setting in accessibility), you can turn off transparency, and you can change the color of your mouse cursor (mine is now hot pink—never lose sight of it).

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          People spreading these memes most likely weren’t born before either release 😀

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          My back hurts

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            We've seen all the window border/ui design cycles by now. You can have:

            • Glassy
            • Metallic
            • Bubbly
            • Flat
            • Chiseled stone

            They will just rotate every 7 years or so from here on out.

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            • S [email protected]

              From day one of Windows 11, I wrote that Windows 11 felt like an unnecessary replacement for Windows 10. I’ve since changed my mind about that, in part because Microsoft has pivoted toward features like Windows Spotlight and adding AI capabilities like Copilot. MacOS Tahoe looks and feels somewhat like Windows Vista’s Aero Glass design language, but you can’t hold that against them—some of Microsoft’s early Windows efforts were fondly remembered for their UI.

              Oh so he doesn't know what he is talking about. How has 11 gotten better with 'AI' or anything else.

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              Didn't Vista get a ton of hate for its new UI?

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                We've seen all the window border/ui design cycles by now. You can have:

                • Glassy
                • Metallic
                • Bubbly
                • Flat
                • Chiseled stone

                They will just rotate every 7 years or so from here on out.

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                • F [email protected]

                  Didn't Vista get a ton of hate for its new UI?

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                  IIRC, vista got hate because to run it a massive number of users would have to…upgrade…their…hardware.

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                    My back hurts

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                    Get off my lawn Lemmy

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                    • D [email protected]

                      IIRC, vista got hate because to run it a massive number of users would have to…upgrade…their…hardware.

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                      That, and it had a lot of technical changes that broke a lot of drivers and programs. All the technical changes also had lots of bugs that needed to be fixed. And also, Microsoft OK’ed Vista for 512 MB RAM when it should have had at least 1 GB.

                      When everything started to smooth out, bugs fixed, drivers and programs updated, and computers came with 2GB+ RAM, then Microsoft released Windows 7, based on all of this, and that made Windows 7 shine.

                      People say that Windows Vista should never had been made but without it, Windows 7 would have suffered the same fate as Vista.

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                        Ohhhhhhhhhh I get it! They called it Vista like a view, like something you would see out of a window (I am not very smart)

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                        I’ve only just now made the connection because of your post.

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                        • sheridan@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

                          I've run into gen-z people talking very nostalgically about 2000s UI design trends. They've even retroactively dubbed the era as 'futiger aero'.

                          I'm a bit older and don't as fondly remember that era; I remember a lot of excesses like nonsensical reflections and calendar apps with leather textures. The 2013 turn to "flat" design felt quite fresh to me, and I haven't really gotten tired of it yet.

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                          Hell yeah I love that shit. Gimme unnecessarily textured UIs, frosted glass effects and all the skeuomorphisms you can manage.

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                            From day one of Windows 11, I wrote that Windows 11 felt like an unnecessary replacement for Windows 10. I’ve since changed my mind about that, in part because Microsoft has pivoted toward features like Windows Spotlight and adding AI capabilities like Copilot. MacOS Tahoe looks and feels somewhat like Windows Vista’s Aero Glass design language, but you can’t hold that against them—some of Microsoft’s early Windows efforts were fondly remembered for their UI.

                            Oh so he doesn't know what he is talking about. How has 11 gotten better with 'AI' or anything else.

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                            Context
                            I had no idea what was going on until I found this at the bottom of all the comments.

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                              Ohhhhhhhhhh I get it! They called it Vista like a view, like something you would see out of a window (I am not very smart)

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                              And it's called Windows 11 to remind us of 9/11, because both are fucking tragedies.

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                              • sheridan@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

                                I mean, I'm not entirely opposed to some translucency and gloss if it doesn't get in the way of legibility. For me early Mac OS X 'Aqua' circa 2003 is the peak of that aesthetic.

                                Any UI theme should also be applied consistently. What I hated about Vista is the Aero theme was only surface deep. You were always only a few clicks away from some program that look liked it hadn't been updated since Windows 95.

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                                You were always only a few clicks away from some program that look liked it hadn't been updated since Windows 95.

                                That remains true for 10 and 11 too. For a quick trip back to 1995, just do something that you probably haven't done this millennium, change your mouse pointer. Instant nostalgia. Device manager in general hasn't changed much either.

                                I wouldn't even count that against them, working functionality shouldn't be changed without good reason, except that it exposes how much windows is a patch job on a fundamentally flawed design. If it were a boat or car, it would be more Bondo than metal at this point. Why are these dialogs so stuck in the past? Shouldn't it be a simple matter to have them use the latest design elements to at least look consistent, even if the functionality hasn't changed a bit.

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                                  From day one of Windows 11, I wrote that Windows 11 felt like an unnecessary replacement for Windows 10. I’ve since changed my mind about that, in part because Microsoft has pivoted toward features like Windows Spotlight and adding AI capabilities like Copilot. MacOS Tahoe looks and feels somewhat like Windows Vista’s Aero Glass design language, but you can’t hold that against them—some of Microsoft’s early Windows efforts were fondly remembered for their UI.

                                  Oh so he doesn't know what he is talking about. How has 11 gotten better with 'AI' or anything else.

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                                  Well, hopefully their opinion changed from "unnecessary replacement" to "replacement with degraded performance and unnecessary malware."

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                                    I hated XP’s FisherPrice UI as well…

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                                    Yeah, the classic UI was better (and saved you a couple of pixels of useful screen real estate).

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                                      And it's called Windows 11 to remind us of 9/11, because both are fucking tragedies.

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                                      My throat hurts and you made me laugh too hard, I hope you are happy.

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                                      • sheridan@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

                                        I've run into gen-z people talking very nostalgically about 2000s UI design trends. They've even retroactively dubbed the era as 'futiger aero'.

                                        I'm a bit older and don't as fondly remember that era; I remember a lot of excesses like nonsensical reflections and calendar apps with leather textures. The 2013 turn to "flat" design felt quite fresh to me, and I haven't really gotten tired of it yet.

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                                        Windows XP was the peak of Windows' UI.

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                                          And it's called Windows 11 to remind us of 9/11, because both are fucking tragedies.

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                                          I like Windows 11. It's the only OS currently in existence to actually implement HDR properly, and that's just sad.

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