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  • F [email protected]

    Didn't Vista get a ton of hate for its new UI?

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    IIRC, vista got hate because to run it a massive number of users would have to…upgrade…their…hardware.

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      My back hurts

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      Get off my lawn Lemmy

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        IIRC, vista got hate because to run it a massive number of users would have to…upgrade…their…hardware.

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        That, and it had a lot of technical changes that broke a lot of drivers and programs. All the technical changes also had lots of bugs that needed to be fixed. And also, Microsoft OK’ed Vista for 512 MB RAM when it should have had at least 1 GB.

        When everything started to smooth out, bugs fixed, drivers and programs updated, and computers came with 2GB+ RAM, then Microsoft released Windows 7, based on all of this, and that made Windows 7 shine.

        People say that Windows Vista should never had been made but without it, Windows 7 would have suffered the same fate as Vista.

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        • L [email protected]

          Ohhhhhhhhhh I get it! They called it Vista like a view, like something you would see out of a window (I am not very smart)

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          I’ve only just now made the connection because of your post.

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          • sheridan@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

            I've run into gen-z people talking very nostalgically about 2000s UI design trends. They've even retroactively dubbed the era as 'futiger aero'.

            I'm a bit older and don't as fondly remember that era; I remember a lot of excesses like nonsensical reflections and calendar apps with leather textures. The 2013 turn to "flat" design felt quite fresh to me, and I haven't really gotten tired of it yet.

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            Hell yeah I love that shit. Gimme unnecessarily textured UIs, frosted glass effects and all the skeuomorphisms you can manage.

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              From day one of Windows 11, I wrote that Windows 11 felt like an unnecessary replacement for Windows 10. I’ve since changed my mind about that, in part because Microsoft has pivoted toward features like Windows Spotlight and adding AI capabilities like Copilot. MacOS Tahoe looks and feels somewhat like Windows Vista’s Aero Glass design language, but you can’t hold that against them—some of Microsoft’s early Windows efforts were fondly remembered for their UI.

              Oh so he doesn't know what he is talking about. How has 11 gotten better with 'AI' or anything else.

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              Context
              I had no idea what was going on until I found this at the bottom of all the comments.

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                Ohhhhhhhhhh I get it! They called it Vista like a view, like something you would see out of a window (I am not very smart)

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                And it's called Windows 11 to remind us of 9/11, because both are fucking tragedies.

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                • sheridan@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

                  I mean, I'm not entirely opposed to some translucency and gloss if it doesn't get in the way of legibility. For me early Mac OS X 'Aqua' circa 2003 is the peak of that aesthetic.

                  Any UI theme should also be applied consistently. What I hated about Vista is the Aero theme was only surface deep. You were always only a few clicks away from some program that look liked it hadn't been updated since Windows 95.

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                  You were always only a few clicks away from some program that look liked it hadn't been updated since Windows 95.

                  That remains true for 10 and 11 too. For a quick trip back to 1995, just do something that you probably haven't done this millennium, change your mouse pointer. Instant nostalgia. Device manager in general hasn't changed much either.

                  I wouldn't even count that against them, working functionality shouldn't be changed without good reason, except that it exposes how much windows is a patch job on a fundamentally flawed design. If it were a boat or car, it would be more Bondo than metal at this point. Why are these dialogs so stuck in the past? Shouldn't it be a simple matter to have them use the latest design elements to at least look consistent, even if the functionality hasn't changed a bit.

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                    From day one of Windows 11, I wrote that Windows 11 felt like an unnecessary replacement for Windows 10. I’ve since changed my mind about that, in part because Microsoft has pivoted toward features like Windows Spotlight and adding AI capabilities like Copilot. MacOS Tahoe looks and feels somewhat like Windows Vista’s Aero Glass design language, but you can’t hold that against them—some of Microsoft’s early Windows efforts were fondly remembered for their UI.

                    Oh so he doesn't know what he is talking about. How has 11 gotten better with 'AI' or anything else.

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                    Well, hopefully their opinion changed from "unnecessary replacement" to "replacement with degraded performance and unnecessary malware."

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                    • M [email protected]

                      I hated XP’s FisherPrice UI as well…

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                      Yeah, the classic UI was better (and saved you a couple of pixels of useful screen real estate).

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                        And it's called Windows 11 to remind us of 9/11, because both are fucking tragedies.

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                        My throat hurts and you made me laugh too hard, I hope you are happy.

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                        • sheridan@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

                          I've run into gen-z people talking very nostalgically about 2000s UI design trends. They've even retroactively dubbed the era as 'futiger aero'.

                          I'm a bit older and don't as fondly remember that era; I remember a lot of excesses like nonsensical reflections and calendar apps with leather textures. The 2013 turn to "flat" design felt quite fresh to me, and I haven't really gotten tired of it yet.

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                          Windows XP was the peak of Windows' UI.

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                            And it's called Windows 11 to remind us of 9/11, because both are fucking tragedies.

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                            I like Windows 11. It's the only OS currently in existence to actually implement HDR properly, and that's just sad.

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                              Also, everyone hated the UI in Vista at the time.

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                              I feel like I was the only person who liked vista. XP looked like shit, so I used win 2k instead and switched to Vista, never had any issues with it at all.

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                              • kolanaki@pawb.socialK [email protected]

                                Windows XP was the peak of Windows' UI.

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                                Aged badly.
                                However, the Embedded Edition theme looks fine.

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                                  Hell yeah I love that shit. Gimme unnecessarily textured UIs, frosted glass effects and all the skeuomorphisms you can manage.

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                                  skeuomorphisms

                                  No joke, that kind of design was super useful for touchscreens. Especially if the buttons animated like a button and visibly depressed upon being tapped. Made it real easy to tell if you mistyped or of the touchscreen was fucked up and registering your tap in a slightly different spot.

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                                    Necessary "BTW, I'm using arch linux" comment coming through!

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                                      Because people don’t seem to remember that Mac OS X 10.2 used Aqua and glassmorphism in 2002 to match their iMac’ brand new translucent style 5 years before Windows Vista was released (2007).

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                                      Yeah and odd they don’t see the fundamental difference between these, Apple was always “glass widgets on/in a solid rectangle”

                                      Only on Windows were windows windows

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                                        I like Windows 11. It's the only OS currently in existence to actually implement HDR properly, and that's just sad.

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                                        Nothing else works but hey the blacks are blacker!

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                                        • sheridan@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

                                          I've run into gen-z people talking very nostalgically about 2000s UI design trends. They've even retroactively dubbed the era as 'futiger aero'.

                                          I'm a bit older and don't as fondly remember that era; I remember a lot of excesses like nonsensical reflections and calendar apps with leather textures. The 2013 turn to "flat" design felt quite fresh to me, and I haven't really gotten tired of it yet.

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                                          There was the unreleased Windows “Blackcomb”, basically prior to Redmond seeing Apple’s Aqua, which was like a bit Windows 2000, a bit ME, flatness, outlines, square corners, and it could’ve been metro.

                                          But resolutions and anti-aliasing were getting (slightly) better, so copy Apple, XP instead gets texture and rounds everything.

                                          Vista was another interesting take, especially weird was the window controls. We are still living with those weird long controls with a margin below, but not above them, a lot of the time, even in flat land Windows 11.

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