China to impose 34% retaliatory tariff on all goods imported from the U.S.
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If they keep that promise, that's mostly good news IMO. Interference doesn't always go so well.
I think Afghanistan is a good example, we were there for 20 years, trying to establish democracy. And now they are right back where they were 20 years ago.
We can't keep policing such countries indefinitely. This is a link of our (Denmark) losses, as a small country that helped the UN effort.
https://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danske_tab_i_Afghanistan_siden_2002It's horrible how they treat their own population, but we can't control the entire Muslim world. And all Muslim dominated countries are horrible AFAIK. So I'm good with staying out, as long as they don't create trouble here. Problem is that they do, sometimes for stupid religious reasons.
Of course they will. They're winning. China is patient if anything. That's why even Rubio said they have a 10,000 year plan to take over America. Which is absurd since USA didn't exist then, but that's besides the point. What he's right about is China will wait.
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That's a bad take. Independence should be in the view of the people living there. I'm not going to gauge if Taiwan is a country based on if I can convince the US to recognize them, that's nonsense garbage logic
Is it? So you're for the independence of Barcelona? Hawaii? Ireland? Falken Islands? When do they get to choose?
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Reported as propaganda, but here's the thing... Technically correct is the best kind of correct, right?
Only 12 agencies recognize Taiwan as an independent state. TWELVE. A short enough list that I can copy/paste it:
Belize, Guatemala, Haiti, Holy See (Vatican), Marshall Islands, Palau, Paraguay, St Lucia, St Kitts and Nevis, St Vincent and the Grenadines, Eswatini and Tuvalu.
That's it. Even the US doesn't explicitly recognize an independent Taiwan. The UN rejected membership in 2007.
https://www.prospectmagazine.co.uk/world/united-nations/68163/how-taiwan-lost-its-place-at-the-un
Huh? I'm confused that's my point.
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Huh? I'm confused that's my point.
Origjnal comment was reported, probably for the whole "Taiwan isn't a recognized country". As noted, that's largely a true statement.
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Origjnal comment was reported, probably for the whole "Taiwan isn't a recognized country". As noted, that's largely a true statement.
Oh I see what you're saying now. Yes, I am saying if you're going to argue against my China doesn't militarily support actions by other countries against sovereign nations, then you can't use Taiwan as an example to counter my point as other countries do not recognize Taiwan.
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- China’s finance ministry on Friday said it will impose a 34% tariff on all goods imported from the U.S. starting on April 10.
- The ministry criticized Washington’s decision to impose 34% of additional reciprocal levies on China — bringing total U.S. tariffs against the country to 54% — as “inconsistent with international trade rules.”
- U.S. stock futures and European markets fell sharply on news of the reciprocal tariffs.
Hopefully the political correction happens fast. The last two tariff wars created massive depressions. The Great depression saw a landslide democratic victory and it took Republicans 60 years to become relevant again. This could be good.
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With USA committing political and economic suicide, the road is now clear for China to become the world dominating power.
I just hope they will take a graceful approach to their role, when nobody is in a position to oppose them.Not a chance. China’s massive xenophobic approach to anyone non-Han Chinese will severely limit their potential.
Point out all the racism in various Western countries, and it pales in comparison to what goes on in China.
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Not a chance. China’s massive xenophobic approach to anyone non-Han Chinese will severely limit their potential.
Point out all the racism in various Western countries, and it pales in comparison to what goes on in China.
Their potential is already proven. Xenophobe or not.
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This again? Taiwan isn't a recognized country. So they would not be interfering with a nation. IF you disagree with that, petition your own country to recognize Taiwan. The funniest thing is I'm Taiwanese and frankly the Taiwanese don't want independence at this point. That's why the Taiwanese congress is majority status quo and about 50/50 on independence and actually returning to China. The reason president Lai won is because the split is so strong that a 40% vote for Lai got him the win. A few more from the people who wanted status quo voted for him instead of Hou at 34%. Yet if you saw what congress did immediately after, which is handcuff him from ever declaring independence, you'll know the will of the Taiwanese.
So all that is to say, no China won't be attacking Taiwan either. That's just nonsense noise from the west, which frankly I as a Taiwanese person is absolutely sick of. The agreement is simple, Taiwan doesn't declare independence and China will at most saber rattle.
could you provide some evidence you're Taiwanese in Taiwan?
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- China’s finance ministry on Friday said it will impose a 34% tariff on all goods imported from the U.S. starting on April 10.
- The ministry criticized Washington’s decision to impose 34% of additional reciprocal levies on China — bringing total U.S. tariffs against the country to 54% — as “inconsistent with international trade rules.”
- U.S. stock futures and European markets fell sharply on news of the reciprocal tariffs.
Who's gonna benefit from all this extra taxes?
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could you provide some evidence you're Taiwanese in Taiwan?
I already did, look through my comments.
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I already did, look through my comments.
then you are the only Chinese person I've ever heard say "Hans Chinese"
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then you are the only Chinese person I've ever heard say "Hans Chinese"
Wait, when did I say I'm Chinese?
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This again? Taiwan isn't a recognized country. So they would not be interfering with a nation. IF you disagree with that, petition your own country to recognize Taiwan. The funniest thing is I'm Taiwanese and frankly the Taiwanese don't want independence at this point. That's why the Taiwanese congress is majority status quo and about 50/50 on independence and actually returning to China. The reason president Lai won is because the split is so strong that a 40% vote for Lai got him the win. A few more from the people who wanted status quo voted for him instead of Hou at 34%. Yet if you saw what congress did immediately after, which is handcuff him from ever declaring independence, you'll know the will of the Taiwanese.
So all that is to say, no China won't be attacking Taiwan either. That's just nonsense noise from the west, which frankly I as a Taiwanese person is absolutely sick of. The agreement is simple, Taiwan doesn't declare independence and China will at most saber rattle.
Edit 2:. Loving. The down votes for a Taiwanese person explaining to a westerner what our actual opinions are. Why don't you all westsplain to me how I should feel.
This is exactly what happens on every .ml or hexbear discussion when someone mentions Ukraine, BTW.
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Wait, when did I say I'm Chinese?
you said you're Taiwanese above, do you consider yourself Taiwanese and not Chinese?
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you said you're Taiwanese above, do you consider yourself Taiwanese and not Chinese?
That's correct. Like I said, westerners have no understanding of what the Taiwanese people want or think. And instead of understanding, they make grand statements about what we want without our input. Again, if you look at the voting, we voted heavily in favor of status quo, which is what I want. If you look at polls, Taiwanese people consider themselves Taiwanese. It's confusing to people like you because you want it to be black and white, we are fine with shades of gray. Mostly though, I want people to stop talking for us.
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That's correct. Like I said, westerners have no understanding of what the Taiwanese people want or think. And instead of understanding, they make grand statements about what we want without our input. Again, if you look at the voting, we voted heavily in favor of status quo, which is what I want. If you look at polls, Taiwanese people consider themselves Taiwanese. It's confusing to people like you because you want it to be black and white, we are fine with shades of gray. Mostly though, I want people to stop talking for us.
that's legit, as an anarchist i want peoples to be able to speak for themselves. I'm not finding referendums about independence, though, just polling from the NSC / ECCU that suggests a split between maintaining status quo and gradually moving towards independence
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that's legit, as an anarchist i want peoples to be able to speak for themselves. I'm not finding referendums about independence, though, just polling from the NSC / ECCU that suggests a split between maintaining status quo and gradually moving towards independence
I mean if you ask Taiwanese people in the very long run would it be nice if Taiwan is independent I would argue probably 70% would agree with that. But we're fine with that not happening for hundreds of years if so be it. We're mostly fine with the situation the way it is right now. Which is exactly why I dislike people bringing up Taiwan whenever they talk about China. First it's always about war, second it's always about us wanting an independence we're not actually thinking about within our lifetimes. Taiwan only becomes a hot zone IF the US makes it a hot zone. China has stated they have no plans to take Taiwan by force unless necessary and will prepare a strong enough military by 2027 to fight the US. The US has taken that to mean China will invade in 2027. What China is really saying is we're going to be so strong that Taiwan would want to return. I don't think that's true. Most Taiwanese people do not want to return. However, if USA keeps doing what it's doing, Taiwan may U-turn. There's a lot of unhappiness right now about America. BUT that's also why we like the status quo. We see the winds changing. We want the best opportunities for ourselves regardless of who leads the world.
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- China’s finance ministry on Friday said it will impose a 34% tariff on all goods imported from the U.S. starting on April 10.
- The ministry criticized Washington’s decision to impose 34% of additional reciprocal levies on China — bringing total U.S. tariffs against the country to 54% — as “inconsistent with international trade rules.”
- U.S. stock futures and European markets fell sharply on news of the reciprocal tariffs.
If every country he puts tariffs on ends up implementing their own retaliatory tariffs, what would happen?
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I mean if you ask Taiwanese people in the very long run would it be nice if Taiwan is independent I would argue probably 70% would agree with that. But we're fine with that not happening for hundreds of years if so be it. We're mostly fine with the situation the way it is right now. Which is exactly why I dislike people bringing up Taiwan whenever they talk about China. First it's always about war, second it's always about us wanting an independence we're not actually thinking about within our lifetimes. Taiwan only becomes a hot zone IF the US makes it a hot zone. China has stated they have no plans to take Taiwan by force unless necessary and will prepare a strong enough military by 2027 to fight the US. The US has taken that to mean China will invade in 2027. What China is really saying is we're going to be so strong that Taiwan would want to return. I don't think that's true. Most Taiwanese people do not want to return. However, if USA keeps doing what it's doing, Taiwan may U-turn. There's a lot of unhappiness right now about America. BUT that's also why we like the status quo. We see the winds changing. We want the best opportunities for ourselves regardless of who leads the world.
How do you feel about the military exercises China takes near Taiwan?
I'd also like to hear your perspective on US involvement in the region, such as military bases and weapons aid.
