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    • China’s finance ministry on Friday said it will impose a 34% tariff on all goods imported from the U.S. starting on April 10.
    • The ministry criticized Washington’s decision to impose 34% of additional reciprocal levies on China — bringing total U.S. tariffs against the country to 54% — as “inconsistent with international trade rules.”
    • U.S. stock futures and European markets fell sharply on news of the reciprocal tariffs.
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    Who's gonna benefit from all this extra taxes?
    Public services will sky rocket in 2025!

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    • match@pawb.socialM [email protected]

      could you provide some evidence you're Taiwanese in Taiwan?

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      I already did, look through my comments.

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        I already did, look through my comments.

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        then you are the only Chinese person I've ever heard say "Hans Chinese"

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          then you are the only Chinese person I've ever heard say "Hans Chinese"

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          Wait, when did I say I'm Chinese?

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            This again? Taiwan isn't a recognized country. So they would not be interfering with a nation. IF you disagree with that, petition your own country to recognize Taiwan. The funniest thing is I'm Taiwanese and frankly the Taiwanese don't want independence at this point. That's why the Taiwanese congress is majority status quo and about 50/50 on independence and actually returning to China. The reason president Lai won is because the split is so strong that a 40% vote for Lai got him the win. A few more from the people who wanted status quo voted for him instead of Hou at 34%. Yet if you saw what congress did immediately after, which is handcuff him from ever declaring independence, you'll know the will of the Taiwanese.

            So all that is to say, no China won't be attacking Taiwan either. That's just nonsense noise from the west, which frankly I as a Taiwanese person is absolutely sick of. The agreement is simple, Taiwan doesn't declare independence and China will at most saber rattle.

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            Edit 2:. Loving. The down votes for a Taiwanese person explaining to a westerner what our actual opinions are. Why don't you all westsplain to me how I should feel.

            This is exactly what happens on every .ml or hexbear discussion when someone mentions Ukraine, BTW.

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              Wait, when did I say I'm Chinese?

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              you said you're Taiwanese above, do you consider yourself Taiwanese and not Chinese?

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              • match@pawb.socialM [email protected]

                you said you're Taiwanese above, do you consider yourself Taiwanese and not Chinese?

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                That's correct. Like I said, westerners have no understanding of what the Taiwanese people want or think. And instead of understanding, they make grand statements about what we want without our input. Again, if you look at the voting, we voted heavily in favor of status quo, which is what I want. If you look at polls, Taiwanese people consider themselves Taiwanese. It's confusing to people like you because you want it to be black and white, we are fine with shades of gray. Mostly though, I want people to stop talking for us.

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                  That's correct. Like I said, westerners have no understanding of what the Taiwanese people want or think. And instead of understanding, they make grand statements about what we want without our input. Again, if you look at the voting, we voted heavily in favor of status quo, which is what I want. If you look at polls, Taiwanese people consider themselves Taiwanese. It's confusing to people like you because you want it to be black and white, we are fine with shades of gray. Mostly though, I want people to stop talking for us.

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                  that's legit, as an anarchist i want peoples to be able to speak for themselves. I'm not finding referendums about independence, though, just polling from the NSC / ECCU that suggests a split between maintaining status quo and gradually moving towards independence

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                    that's legit, as an anarchist i want peoples to be able to speak for themselves. I'm not finding referendums about independence, though, just polling from the NSC / ECCU that suggests a split between maintaining status quo and gradually moving towards independence

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                    I mean if you ask Taiwanese people in the very long run would it be nice if Taiwan is independent I would argue probably 70% would agree with that. But we're fine with that not happening for hundreds of years if so be it. We're mostly fine with the situation the way it is right now. Which is exactly why I dislike people bringing up Taiwan whenever they talk about China. First it's always about war, second it's always about us wanting an independence we're not actually thinking about within our lifetimes. Taiwan only becomes a hot zone IF the US makes it a hot zone. China has stated they have no plans to take Taiwan by force unless necessary and will prepare a strong enough military by 2027 to fight the US. The US has taken that to mean China will invade in 2027. What China is really saying is we're going to be so strong that Taiwan would want to return. I don't think that's true. Most Taiwanese people do not want to return. However, if USA keeps doing what it's doing, Taiwan may U-turn. There's a lot of unhappiness right now about America. BUT that's also why we like the status quo. We see the winds changing. We want the best opportunities for ourselves regardless of who leads the world.

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                      • China’s finance ministry on Friday said it will impose a 34% tariff on all goods imported from the U.S. starting on April 10.
                      • The ministry criticized Washington’s decision to impose 34% of additional reciprocal levies on China — bringing total U.S. tariffs against the country to 54% — as “inconsistent with international trade rules.”
                      • U.S. stock futures and European markets fell sharply on news of the reciprocal tariffs.
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                      If every country he puts tariffs on ends up implementing their own retaliatory tariffs, what would happen?

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                        I mean if you ask Taiwanese people in the very long run would it be nice if Taiwan is independent I would argue probably 70% would agree with that. But we're fine with that not happening for hundreds of years if so be it. We're mostly fine with the situation the way it is right now. Which is exactly why I dislike people bringing up Taiwan whenever they talk about China. First it's always about war, second it's always about us wanting an independence we're not actually thinking about within our lifetimes. Taiwan only becomes a hot zone IF the US makes it a hot zone. China has stated they have no plans to take Taiwan by force unless necessary and will prepare a strong enough military by 2027 to fight the US. The US has taken that to mean China will invade in 2027. What China is really saying is we're going to be so strong that Taiwan would want to return. I don't think that's true. Most Taiwanese people do not want to return. However, if USA keeps doing what it's doing, Taiwan may U-turn. There's a lot of unhappiness right now about America. BUT that's also why we like the status quo. We see the winds changing. We want the best opportunities for ourselves regardless of who leads the world.

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                        How do you feel about the military exercises China takes near Taiwan?

                        I'd also like to hear your perspective on US involvement in the region, such as military bases and weapons aid.

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                          Hopefully the political correction happens fast. The last two tariff wars created massive depressions. The Great depression saw a landslide democratic victory and it took Republicans 60 years to become relevant again. This could be good.

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                          60 years ago there was no fox news and social media. These morons will forget in 2 months let alone 2 or 4 years.

                          The American electorate dumber than a bag of rocks

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                            60 years ago there was no fox news and social media. These morons will forget in 2 months let alone 2 or 4 years.

                            The American electorate dumber than a bag of rocks

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                            Talk to really old people sometime, we haven't gotten dumber. Maybe more tolerant of dumbness.

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                              Hopefully the political correction happens fast. The last two tariff wars created massive depressions. The Great depression saw a landslide democratic victory and it took Republicans 60 years to become relevant again. This could be good.

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                              I mean, you'd need a fair election to ever happen again for that.

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                                Their potential is already proven. Xenophobe or not.

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                                More like their potential is already realised.

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                                  How do you feel about the military exercises China takes near Taiwan?

                                  I'd also like to hear your perspective on US involvement in the region, such as military bases and weapons aid.

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                                  It's important to understand who the military exercises are aimed at. It's aimed at USA, every Taiwanese person knows this. Which is why we literally have people come out and take pictures of the weapons going off instead of hiding or fearing anything. It's fine, everyone seems to like firing off their weapons near our island at this point. It's not like USA, Australia, Japan, Russia, North Korea, Vietnam, Philippines, England, France, India I could go on, but they're all firing weapons. This is actually why China keeps increasing the size of the exercises. They're trying to show no matter how many people are there, they'll have the force to handle it (they don't, that's what 2027 is about). Actually MORE IMPORTANTLY China doesn't have the soldiers to actually fight the war. If you ever wondered how China's military budget is so tiny compared to USA's and yet has so much equipment, it's because they don't actually train their soldiers. It's also how we know China is using the equipment for fear factor and not an actual invasion. They would need to massively expand their military size and training. China seems big with 2 million active soldiers, but almost all of those soldiers are trained for humanitarian aid. AND it's not even enough to take on USA alone if USA activates their reserves let alone their allies (which is probably going away now). Plus, it's almost all army grunts who are tasked with cleaning up city streets like they did in HK during the riots. They're desperately short on pilots. So China doesn't have a real fighting force, and the force they do have is incredibly corrupt, which is what all the firings of the heads of departments is about. China knows this, they also know the only thing they can really do is saber rattle, because all their soldiers are spoiled brats who couldn't go to a good school.

                                  As to your second question I have no real answer. If you go all the way back to my original post this is what I was talking about. IF China is sole hegemony, China has a strong policy of never sending their soldiers to do anything anywhere ever, unless Taiwan declares independence. Note, the whole Philippines thing isn't against Chinese military but their coast guards. They're trained to use water cannons not weapons.

                                  So what happens? Well this is the scary part, if USA actually retreats, there's nothing holding the nations together who are upset at their governments. We're going to see massive genocides across the world.

                                  On the other hand, to your ideal, who is USA to tell other nations to obey in the first place? All I know is that if China wins completely, the world will be more chaotic, at least for a while.

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                                    I don't think user comments are typically blocked, just communities. Which is fine with me, I don't have a problem with every single user on instances I have blocked.

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                                    In Connect it would auto hide posts made by someone in a blocked community. They'd all be there, but you'd have to elect to have it shown to see it.

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                                      If every country he puts tariffs on ends up implementing their own retaliatory tariffs, what would happen?

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                                      Death to folks who can’t afford to have their basic needs met.

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                                        If every country he puts tariffs on ends up implementing their own retaliatory tariffs, what would happen?

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                                        Look at Cuba. Now look at the US. Now look at Cuba again.

                                        Okay, now image Cuba but without the public health care, housing, jobs programs, and mass transit.

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                                          Who's gonna benefit from all this extra taxes?
                                          Public services will sky rocket in 2025!

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                                          Public services will sky rocket in 2025!

                                          Elon Musk laughing

                                          No they won't.

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