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‘The tyranny of apps’: those without smartphones are unfairly penalised, say campaigners

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    As I've been making an effort to replace apps with the browser version of the service. It's so abundantly clear that companies don't want you using their website.

    Even if they don't outright cripple functionality, they'll hound you endlessly to install the app.

    It's infuriating to say the least.

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      most phones now don’t support memory expansion

      Well of course not. If phones supported memory expansion you would just buy more memory, instead of buying an entirely new phone
      Don't even get me started on how bloated these apps have become. I used Paperclip word processor on a Commodore-64; you can not convince me that your app needs to be 50+ Megs in size.

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      You can't compare (what is arguably) the pique of human computing to modern phones.

      ...I miss the c64

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        Phone apps are nothing more than modern toolbars. And in case you forgot or missed this phase of the internet...

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          Not more options, you want your option to win.

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          Because a Linux phone is objectively superior, duh

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            You might enjoy SecScannerQR then. It makes it easier to vet QR codes by giving an option to search for the URL instead of going there directly.

            https://f-droid.org/en/packages/de.t_dankworth.secscanqr/

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            Isn't that standard behavior though? I've never seen anything that opens a URL directly instead of just showing it to you with an option to access it.

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              Not more options, you want your option to win.

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              Linux is awesome, what are you crying about?

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                I have an app for that.

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                  Not more options, you want your option to win.

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                  You're an idiot or you're trolling, I honestly can't tell.

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                  • snotflickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zoneS [email protected]

                    How about this:

                    At the apartments I recently moved out of, there were no quarter slots on the washing machines. They were an app that required a bluetooth connection to pay.

                    So if you lived there and didn't have a smartphone? Go fuck yourself, you don't get to do laundry.

                    Unless you bothered to check the laundry room when you were looking at the apartment, you wouldn't know. No warnings.

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                    That depends a bit on if it was advertised or not to have a laundry room. At least here in NL it is more common to have your own washing machine than to use a shared one so having a laundry room would be an extra to start with.

                    Still sucks though

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                      Considering your average printer is a piece of shit that needs to be replaced quite often, yes, using a website is probably more energy efficient.

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                      Generally companies use service contracts to keep those things working so mo they wouldn’t be replaced often. They are just a piece of shit

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                        YES full support! I have and am sending this from my smartphone but I'll stop going to your store before I download your stupid fucking app for a free mcflurry or whatever the fuck pisspoor excuse you have for installing malware on my devices.

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                        • 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub0 [email protected]

                          Phone apps are nothing more than modern toolbars. And in case you forgot or missed this phase of the internet...

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                          "2020 search"

                          Bruh someone's grandma needs help, we need to fix this computer, it looks like it's about to get stuck on zombo.com.

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                            Not more options, you want your option to win.

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                            We want other options to be allowed to exist. This is "you just want everyone to be gay/trans/whatever" all over again.

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                              Part of a cult for wanting more options...

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                              Ill be part of that cult

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                              • 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub0 [email protected]

                                You can't compare (what is arguably) the pique of human computing to modern phones.

                                ...I miss the c64

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                                Not too be an ass, but you meant "peak" right?

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                                  As I've been making an effort to replace apps with the browser version of the service. It's so abundantly clear that companies don't want you using their website.

                                  Even if they don't outright cripple functionality, they'll hound you endlessly to install the app.

                                  It's infuriating to say the least.

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                                  Even if they don’t outright cripple functionality, they’ll hound you endlessly to install the app.

                                  Still don't understand the logic of doing that.

                                  It's like saying,

                                  "Our website is nigh unusable, please install our app instead. We pinky promise our app works".

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                                    I was raised in the boondocks. You couldn't get reception there back in the 90's, and there weren't any kids or neighbors that I could visit without having to be driven. My parents didn't have any community at all, so I in turn never learned how to socialize properly. To say the least, I never became comfortable with phones, even after moving into civilization. It just wasn't part of me.

                                    Isolation from people is a huge disadvantage in life, you don't get to make friends, network, or learn what it means to be part of society. Here's hoping that cellphones and whatnot become rights, as you have said.

                                    However, some states might provide SSI recipients a LifeConnect program. You get a free smartphone and low-end plan.

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                                    yep, I know this feeling all too well - having a community and friends is important but even more so in cases like ours. Thank you for the comment, I hope you're doing better nowadays.

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                                    • snotflickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zoneS [email protected]

                                      How about this:

                                      At the apartments I recently moved out of, there were no quarter slots on the washing machines. They were an app that required a bluetooth connection to pay.

                                      So if you lived there and didn't have a smartphone? Go fuck yourself, you don't get to do laundry.

                                      Unless you bothered to check the laundry room when you were looking at the apartment, you wouldn't know. No warnings.

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                                      Tbf, my building also uses an app for laundry. However they also have a machine in the laundry rooms where you can purchase an NFC payment card and put money on it. So you can use it without the app. Is that not the case with yours? If not, that's 100% fucked

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                                        McDonald’s (in Germany at least) needs your location to “see when you arrive at the restaurant”. What the hell?! That doesn’t even work properly and they force it on me! I uninstalled the app and now I am actually happy, because without the promotion and discount stuff, I don’t eat McDanks that often anymore.

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                                        McDonald's wants your IQ too. Seriously, it's in their privacy policy.

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                                          I am still on a flip phone. It is usually silent, and I don't spend much time with it at all. While I am missing out on discounts and such, I simply hate the idea of constantly using a phone. Email is my telecommunication of choice, but receptionists don't understand the idea, unfortunately.

                                          My household bought a Rinnai water heater, and the bastard needed a phone to set the temperature. Thing is, it couldn't communicate with the two or three phones that were used on it. Fortunately, there was an old-school modification for a physical keypad, but that had to be bought separately.

                                          Phones are just not my thing.

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                                          I used a flip phone for a month to help curb my screen time addiction. The number of restaurants, stores, etc. that simply expect it of you to have a smart phone was eye opening.

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