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‘The tyranny of apps’: those without smartphones are unfairly penalised, say campaigners

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  • T [email protected]

    Considering your average printer is a piece of shit that needs to be replaced quite often, yes, using a website is probably more energy efficient.

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    Generally companies use service contracts to keep those things working so mo they wouldn’t be replaced often. They are just a piece of shit

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      YES full support! I have and am sending this from my smartphone but I'll stop going to your store before I download your stupid fucking app for a free mcflurry or whatever the fuck pisspoor excuse you have for installing malware on my devices.

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      • 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub0 [email protected]

        Phone apps are nothing more than modern toolbars. And in case you forgot or missed this phase of the internet...

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        "2020 search"

        Bruh someone's grandma needs help, we need to fix this computer, it looks like it's about to get stuck on zombo.com.

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        • T [email protected]

          Not more options, you want your option to win.

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          We want other options to be allowed to exist. This is "you just want everyone to be gay/trans/whatever" all over again.

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          • sunshine@lemmy.caS [email protected]

            Part of a cult for wanting more options...

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            Ill be part of that cult

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            • 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub0 [email protected]

              You can't compare (what is arguably) the pique of human computing to modern phones.

              ...I miss the c64

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              Not too be an ass, but you meant "peak" right?

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              • S [email protected]

                As I've been making an effort to replace apps with the browser version of the service. It's so abundantly clear that companies don't want you using their website.

                Even if they don't outright cripple functionality, they'll hound you endlessly to install the app.

                It's infuriating to say the least.

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                Even if they don’t outright cripple functionality, they’ll hound you endlessly to install the app.

                Still don't understand the logic of doing that.

                It's like saying,

                "Our website is nigh unusable, please install our app instead. We pinky promise our app works".

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                • S [email protected]

                  I was raised in the boondocks. You couldn't get reception there back in the 90's, and there weren't any kids or neighbors that I could visit without having to be driven. My parents didn't have any community at all, so I in turn never learned how to socialize properly. To say the least, I never became comfortable with phones, even after moving into civilization. It just wasn't part of me.

                  Isolation from people is a huge disadvantage in life, you don't get to make friends, network, or learn what it means to be part of society. Here's hoping that cellphones and whatnot become rights, as you have said.

                  However, some states might provide SSI recipients a LifeConnect program. You get a free smartphone and low-end plan.

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                  yep, I know this feeling all too well - having a community and friends is important but even more so in cases like ours. Thank you for the comment, I hope you're doing better nowadays.

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                  • snotflickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zoneS [email protected]

                    How about this:

                    At the apartments I recently moved out of, there were no quarter slots on the washing machines. They were an app that required a bluetooth connection to pay.

                    So if you lived there and didn't have a smartphone? Go fuck yourself, you don't get to do laundry.

                    Unless you bothered to check the laundry room when you were looking at the apartment, you wouldn't know. No warnings.

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                    Tbf, my building also uses an app for laundry. However they also have a machine in the laundry rooms where you can purchase an NFC payment card and put money on it. So you can use it without the app. Is that not the case with yours? If not, that's 100% fucked

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                      McDonald’s (in Germany at least) needs your location to “see when you arrive at the restaurant”. What the hell?! That doesn’t even work properly and they force it on me! I uninstalled the app and now I am actually happy, because without the promotion and discount stuff, I don’t eat McDanks that often anymore.

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                      McDonald's wants your IQ too. Seriously, it's in their privacy policy.

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                      • S [email protected]

                        I am still on a flip phone. It is usually silent, and I don't spend much time with it at all. While I am missing out on discounts and such, I simply hate the idea of constantly using a phone. Email is my telecommunication of choice, but receptionists don't understand the idea, unfortunately.

                        My household bought a Rinnai water heater, and the bastard needed a phone to set the temperature. Thing is, it couldn't communicate with the two or three phones that were used on it. Fortunately, there was an old-school modification for a physical keypad, but that had to be bought separately.

                        Phones are just not my thing.

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                        I used a flip phone for a month to help curb my screen time addiction. The number of restaurants, stores, etc. that simply expect it of you to have a smart phone was eye opening.

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                          Early 2000 wants its internet back

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                            I'm in California where we have a grocery chain, Safeway. They've had a loyalty card for decades, which works great, gets you good deals, can be scanned by the checkout clerk or at self checkout. It also racks up points which can be used for discounts.

                            About 2 years ago I started seeing signs in the store offering even greater savings through the app. There will sometimes be 2 signs side by side for the loyalty card vs the app. The app is always a better deal.

                            So I downloaded the app and learned

                            • the app cannot scan your membership at self checkout, you have to be checked out by a clerk
                            • the app's membership number is different from your loyalty card number and the two cannot be merged.
                            • because of that your points can't be transferred to the app

                            It's the dumbest thing ever. Why not just offer the better savings to the loyalty card? Isn't that the whole point behind loyalty? I literally shop at Safeway less often now.

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                              Even if they don’t outright cripple functionality, they’ll hound you endlessly to install the app.

                              Still don't understand the logic of doing that.

                              It's like saying,

                              "Our website is nigh unusable, please install our app instead. We pinky promise our app works".

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                              It's because you have control over your browser, but they control their app and all its trackers, ads, etc

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                              • 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub0 [email protected]

                                Phone apps are nothing more than modern toolbars. And in case you forgot or missed this phase of the internet...

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                                Click to win a FREE LOBSTER Dinner 🦀🦞🦐

                                Man I miss this era of the internet. It truly felt like a new frontier.

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                                  everyone wants to force you to use apps instead of websites, because websites and browsers have inbuilt protections.

                                  Apps don't.

                                  Idiots install apps, give them the 400,000 permissions they ask for, then go on their merry way..ignorant to the fact that they just installed a data vacuum on their phone thats siphoning everything off of it to be used and sold and resold for marketing purposes.. Even the phone itself its not safe, cause its sitting there, listening to your conversations, even when not on a call, to more "Accurately" spam you with bullshit.

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                                  • D [email protected]

                                    I'm in California where we have a grocery chain, Safeway. They've had a loyalty card for decades, which works great, gets you good deals, can be scanned by the checkout clerk or at self checkout. It also racks up points which can be used for discounts.

                                    About 2 years ago I started seeing signs in the store offering even greater savings through the app. There will sometimes be 2 signs side by side for the loyalty card vs the app. The app is always a better deal.

                                    So I downloaded the app and learned

                                    • the app cannot scan your membership at self checkout, you have to be checked out by a clerk
                                    • the app's membership number is different from your loyalty card number and the two cannot be merged.
                                    • because of that your points can't be transferred to the app

                                    It's the dumbest thing ever. Why not just offer the better savings to the loyalty card? Isn't that the whole point behind loyalty? I literally shop at Safeway less often now.

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                                    My GF laughs because I have no loyalty cards or apps and I laugh that she has one for everything.

                                    Loyalty rewards are bullshit.

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                                      I'm in California where we have a grocery chain, Safeway. They've had a loyalty card for decades, which works great, gets you good deals, can be scanned by the checkout clerk or at self checkout. It also racks up points which can be used for discounts.

                                      About 2 years ago I started seeing signs in the store offering even greater savings through the app. There will sometimes be 2 signs side by side for the loyalty card vs the app. The app is always a better deal.

                                      So I downloaded the app and learned

                                      • the app cannot scan your membership at self checkout, you have to be checked out by a clerk
                                      • the app's membership number is different from your loyalty card number and the two cannot be merged.
                                      • because of that your points can't be transferred to the app

                                      It's the dumbest thing ever. Why not just offer the better savings to the loyalty card? Isn't that the whole point behind loyalty? I literally shop at Safeway less often now.

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                                      Loyalty cards werent a great thing either.

                                      They werent to reward your loyalty, they were to tie your purchase history to an individual, So that information can be used and sold for marketing purposes.

                                      It was basically the prototype for the invasive, information stealing apps we have today.

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                                        It's because you have control over your browser, but they control their app and all its trackers, ads, etc

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                                        Yep. They want you to use apps, cause all the permissions you give the app makes it much easier for them to harvest all your data for marketing and selling purposes.

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                                        • captainhowdy@lemm.eeC [email protected]

                                          You're an idiot or you're trolling, I honestly can't tell.

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