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  • K [email protected]

    The heat could dry out your skin, which, if I'm not mistaken, is essentially what a burn is. However, as the other person noted, a sunburn is damage from radiation, not heat. So I think you could stretch the common definition of a burn to call heat induced dry skin a burn but calling it a sunburn would not be accurate.

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    Heat is also (thermal) radiation. So is light, radio waves, microwaves, etc. However, the radiation from a fire or the other stuff I mentioned isn't ionizing, so unless the heat itself does damage it won't do cellular damage.

    You also give off thermal radiation, but so does anything higher temp than absolute zero.

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      In the US it's cheap but unregulated

      It’s the exact opposite actually.

      US sunscreen is way worse than sunscreen in other parts of the world like the EU. It doesn’t block the harmful radiation as well. The reason is that it’s more strictly regulated in the US. IIRC it’s not considered a cosmetic product but instead it’s a medical product.

      As such it’s subject to much stricter regulation and requires much more (expensive) testing before being allowed on the market. Due to this it’s considered too expensive to introduce the newer, more advanced sunscreen products in the US so you’re stuck with the older, crappier sunscreen.

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      #147

      Edit: Ornery_chemist was a good dude and proved themselves wrong! Hooray! https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2024/05/18/1251919831/sunscreen-effective-better-ingredients-fda

      I'm down voting both of you because neither provided sauce.

      Whoever's right, gets the updoot.

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        So let me tell y'all about the crazies I work with. I burn easily, and there is very little shade, so I store sunscreen everywhere. My desk, the bathroom, my bag, the car, the office supply closet, etc. I often use it and offer to my colleagues when anyone needs to go out for a while.

        We got a new guy on the team, he's going out, I suggest he take some sunscreen. He tells me that sunscreen is poison and that you don't really need it as long as you don't wear sunglasses. He tells me that it's wearing sunglasses that actually causes you to burn because your eyes don't get as much sun so your brain doesn't send the right chemicals out to protect your skin.

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        So blind people never get sunburn? Or always get sunburn?

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        • D [email protected]

          I used to think the same thing, but the thing is we don't care about the energy that goes into the sunscreen, we care about the remaining percent that goes into the skin. If you go from a sunscreen that absorbs 98% of the sun's energy to one that absorbs 99% you are halving the amount of energy your skin is exposed to.

          If you're still getting burned with 98% absorption, then increasing that number by 1% would actually make a huge difference. And that's without even considering things like having a safety margin for improper application.

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          Fair point

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            Maybe they read something about the titanium dioxide contained in some sunscreen products. There is some research indicating that its not as safe as we thought and that it might be carcinogenic.

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            It might be but sunburn is definitely carcinogenic.

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              Fair point

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              https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potato_paradox

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              • M [email protected]

                But it isn't. Technically.

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                Orly? Then:

                What does water feel like when it's dry?

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                  Actually,

                  There's no fire in the sun. Fire is some material oxidizing, and that's not what's happening (or at least not in relevant amounts). What creates the radiation is nuclear fusion.

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                  https://youtu.be/sLkGSV9WDMA

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                    Orly? Then:

                    What does water feel like when it's dry?

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                    Tiny tiny bits of electricity.

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                      Edit: Ornery_chemist was a good dude and proved themselves wrong! Hooray! https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2024/05/18/1251919831/sunscreen-effective-better-ingredients-fda

                      I'm down voting both of you because neither provided sauce.

                      Whoever's right, gets the updoot.

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                      You can spent 10 seconds googling: Source

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                        @webghost0101 Yes big Ashkenazi pharma. Why are you afraid of actually researching the subject instead of trying to propagandaize it?
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                        My 15+ years of research on the topic is solid tyvm.

                        My understanding of both biochemistry, psychology and autism itself is also advanced enough to form an educational opinion on any research i read.

                        The facts i give you can easily be verified and have absolutely nothing to do with big pharma.

                        I have to question your ability to perform research because it seems to be “Everything that disagrees with my initial belief is conspiracy”

                        I am very anti big pharma btw, some of the drugs they give neurodivergent kids are incredibly dangerous. They simply dont have annything to do with causing autism.

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                          Yeah I've seen an upsurge of people claiming sunscreen is toxic poison. Not sure where the fuck they pulled that from

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                          Everything that will kill you A to Z.

                          S is for sunscreen, but also the sun. Both give you cancer, isn’t that fun.

                          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPz9Fcvb1II

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                            You can spent 10 seconds googling: Source

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                            Phenomenal! Thanks for proving yourself wrong!

                            I didn't present the evidence, ya'll did. It's on you, not nameless strangers on the internet taking a shit or doing other stuff.

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                              Maybe this?

                              https://oceanservice.noaa.gov/news/sunscreen-corals.html

                              Seems bad for coral.

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                              I am aware of this, and believe it is real. However this wasn't even his argument.

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                              • M [email protected]

                                Sometimes I think I've heard all the batshit nonsense. Other times I read something like this.

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                                I have a running list of shit I've heard from this guy. I'm positive it's something from Alex Jones or similar.

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                                  So blind people never get sunburn? Or always get sunburn?

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                                  Idk. He said his wife still demands sunscreen for their children, so I'll let him fry himself in peace.

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                                    Mud and henna masks and other full skin coverings are extremely common among indigenous people and presumably your ancestors as well.

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                                    We also used to have much more hair, shadowing the skin from sun

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                                      I was in Berlin last month and spent €16.50 for a 50ml bottle

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                                      Weird. In NRW you can get them at DM for less than 10 Euro.

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                                        It might be but sunburn is definitely carcinogenic.

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                                        This and nowadays (at least here in Europe) you find lots of sun screen without titanium dioxide.They all have a label with corals on it (they call it in hawaian agreement?). So its very easy to avoid nanoparticles AND protect skin. Also, its not like a few years ago that you look like a vampire when using sun screen without nanoparticles.

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                                          I was in Berlin last month and spent €16.50 for a 50ml bottle

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                                          I guess you went to the wrong shop then. In pharmacies or shops open at crazy hours this might be true. We usually buy all products for Hygiene and beauty in shops we call "Drogerie". The most common two chains are Rossmann and DM. There you get sun screen for 3-15€ from various Brands.

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