But I am mighty!!
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No, I mean that for the brunt of humans evolving to be genetically roughly what we are today, it is unlikely many people were living much past their prime. I am talking about roughly 100,000 years ago up to around 10,000 years ago when humans developed from a largely hunter-gatherer lifestyle.
People who live a hunter-gatherer lifestyle today live 65+ regularly. The average may be lower for uncontacted peoples for various reasons, or higher because of reduced disease transmission. I imagine it depends on the group.
Now, I will give you that humans have refined their techniques of hunting etc over that 90k years in a way that caused less accidental deaths.
The crux of the matter though is that the statistical averages you have seen are flawed by infant mortality. In these societies, if you made it past toddler age you were statistically likely to live a long time.
What would be killing people much past their "prime" and how do you define prime?
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Some of the chemicals do show up a bit in blood, but there's no evidence it's toxic iirc.
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It's actually irritating to me that the sun is bombarding us with ionizing radiation
(I know, not the same intensity) but think about the amount of precautions we take before turning on a UV lamp. Or before turning on a very bright LED which you are not supposed to look directly at. Well, neither you should look directly at the sun, but you get the idea
In a perspective, sun is so radioactive it can even decay paint and plastic! It can literally cook you alive and make your skin fall in pieces. This just seems usual to us because we were born with it, people would freak the hell out if a medical procedure had the same side effects
Look, I can make a right wing campaign out of this! BAN THE SUN SAVE YOUR KIDS FROM 800T (Terahertz) RADIATION
It’s actually irritating to me that the sun is bombarding us with ionizing radiation
Yeah, it's called a sunburn!
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The heat could dry out your skin, which, if I'm not mistaken, is essentially what a burn is. However, as the other person noted, a sunburn is damage from radiation, not heat. So I think you could stretch the common definition of a burn to call heat induced dry skin a burn but calling it a sunburn would not be accurate.
Heat is also (thermal) radiation. So is light, radio waves, microwaves, etc. However, the radiation from a fire or the other stuff I mentioned isn't ionizing, so unless the heat itself does damage it won't do cellular damage.
You also give off thermal radiation, but so does anything higher temp than absolute zero.
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In the US it's cheap but unregulated
It’s the exact opposite actually.
US sunscreen is way worse than sunscreen in other parts of the world like the EU. It doesn’t block the harmful radiation as well. The reason is that it’s more strictly regulated in the US. IIRC it’s not considered a cosmetic product but instead it’s a medical product.
As such it’s subject to much stricter regulation and requires much more (expensive) testing before being allowed on the market. Due to this it’s considered too expensive to introduce the newer, more advanced sunscreen products in the US so you’re stuck with the older, crappier sunscreen.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]Edit: Ornery_chemist was a good dude and proved themselves wrong! Hooray! https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2024/05/18/1251919831/sunscreen-effective-better-ingredients-fda
I'm down voting both of you because neither provided sauce.
Whoever's right, gets the updoot.
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So let me tell y'all about the crazies I work with. I burn easily, and there is very little shade, so I store sunscreen everywhere. My desk, the bathroom, my bag, the car, the office supply closet, etc. I often use it and offer to my colleagues when anyone needs to go out for a while.
We got a new guy on the team, he's going out, I suggest he take some sunscreen. He tells me that sunscreen is poison and that you don't really need it as long as you don't wear sunglasses. He tells me that it's wearing sunglasses that actually causes you to burn because your eyes don't get as much sun so your brain doesn't send the right chemicals out to protect your skin.
So blind people never get sunburn? Or always get sunburn?
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I used to think the same thing, but the thing is we don't care about the energy that goes into the sunscreen, we care about the remaining percent that goes into the skin. If you go from a sunscreen that absorbs 98% of the sun's energy to one that absorbs 99% you are halving the amount of energy your skin is exposed to.
If you're still getting burned with 98% absorption, then increasing that number by 1% would actually make a huge difference. And that's without even considering things like having a safety margin for improper application.
Fair point
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Maybe they read something about the titanium dioxide contained in some sunscreen products. There is some research indicating that its not as safe as we thought and that it might be carcinogenic.
It might be but sunburn is definitely carcinogenic.
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Fair point
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But it isn't. Technically.
Orly? Then:
What does water feel like when it's dry?
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There's no fire in the sun. Fire is some material oxidizing, and that's not what's happening (or at least not in relevant amounts). What creates the radiation is nuclear fusion.
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Orly? Then:
What does water feel like when it's dry?
Tiny tiny bits of electricity.
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Edit: Ornery_chemist was a good dude and proved themselves wrong! Hooray! https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2024/05/18/1251919831/sunscreen-effective-better-ingredients-fda
I'm down voting both of you because neither provided sauce.
Whoever's right, gets the updoot.
You can spent 10 seconds googling: Source
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@webghost0101 Yes big Ashkenazi pharma. Why are you afraid of actually researching the subject instead of trying to propagandaize it?wrote on last edited by [email protected]
My 15+ years of research on the topic is solid tyvm.
My understanding of both biochemistry, psychology and autism itself is also advanced enough to form an educational opinion on any research i read.
The facts i give you can easily be verified and have absolutely nothing to do with big pharma.
I have to question your ability to perform research because it seems to be “Everything that disagrees with my initial belief is conspiracy”
I am very anti big pharma btw, some of the drugs they give neurodivergent kids are incredibly dangerous. They simply dont have annything to do with causing autism.
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Yeah I've seen an upsurge of people claiming sunscreen is toxic poison. Not sure where the fuck they pulled that from
wrote on last edited by [email protected]Everything that will kill you A to Z.
S is for sunscreen, but also the sun. Both give you cancer, isn’t that fun.
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You can spent 10 seconds googling: Source
wrote on last edited by [email protected]Phenomenal! Thanks for proving yourself wrong!
I didn't present the evidence, ya'll did. It's on you, not nameless strangers on the internet taking a shit or doing other stuff.
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I am aware of this, and believe it is real. However this wasn't even his argument.
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Sometimes I think I've heard all the batshit nonsense. Other times I read something like this.
I have a running list of shit I've heard from this guy. I'm positive it's something from Alex Jones or similar.
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So blind people never get sunburn? Or always get sunburn?
Idk. He said his wife still demands sunscreen for their children, so I'll let him fry himself in peace.
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Mud and henna masks and other full skin coverings are extremely common among indigenous people and presumably your ancestors as well.
We also used to have much more hair, shadowing the skin from sun
