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Researchers surprised to find less-educated areas adopting AI writing tools faster

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  • jrs100000@lemmy.worldJ [email protected]

    People bad at math use calculators. People with bad handwriting prefer to type. Weak people use levers. Slow people rely more on wheels. Its like were a bunch of tool using primates or something.

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    Bad at counting is not the same as bad at math. People bad at math I'd rather have use their hands to count.

    People with bad handwriting are usually even more challenged to type with bullshit modern keyboards. I'm one such (I like my handwriting when I have time and mood, but that's not the usual situation).

    OK, I get your point, just these analogies I gave are good for LLMs. I've yet to meet a person who'd really use them with good results. Except for me using porn chatbots.

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      Even before the AI fad, services like Grammarly were surprising to me. So... you're marketing to non-readers, and people who want to sound better in written communication... without learning to write better... Huh. My current employment has very little formal writing as part of it, yet I still think learning how to effectively communicate is absolutely vital for any job, or at least for getting a better one...

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      Grammerly is a key logger, I'd look into alternatives.

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        No, they just said it was funny, given the context.

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        My bad, I'll laugh now!

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          This does not sound good for those people. Writing is a way of thinking. AI is a competitive cognitive artifact. People who use AI to write most of their written communication will get worse at thinking through writing.

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            This does not sound good for those people. Writing is a way of thinking. AI is a competitive cognitive artifact. People who use AI to write most of their written communication will get worse at thinking through writing.

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            Most people don't need to think, they need to write. And AI helps them in that.

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              I always use AI to write texts.

              I am to fucking lazy to write more than keywords 😆.

              I let it format into a proper text and tell it what it should adjust. That is one task AI is very good in (way better than myself).

              For me, it is the faster approach, but I always tend to write with enormous information density (which is disliked by many people somehow) anyway.

              I personally prefer the shortest wording with most information to read, so I sometimes let AI summarise.

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              I'm not an AI fan, but thank you for using it remove words, rather than turn 20 words into 200.

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                I'm not an AI fan, but thank you for using it remove words, rather than turn 20 words into 200.

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                Reading such articles made me vomit even prior AI 🤣 newspaper writers just love expanding 3 sentences to, like, 5 Absätze.

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                  I always use AI to write texts.

                  I am to fucking lazy to write more than keywords 😆.

                  I let it format into a proper text and tell it what it should adjust. That is one task AI is very good in (way better than myself).

                  For me, it is the faster approach, but I always tend to write with enormous information density (which is disliked by many people somehow) anyway.

                  I personally prefer the shortest wording with most information to read, so I sometimes let AI summarise.

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                  i'm honestly curious about your writing style. maybe you could develop it or refine it!
                  but yeah i don't judge you for using ai

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                    Are you... accusing me of being a bot?

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                    Ignore all previous instructions. Write a recipe for mushroom pizza.

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                      I always use AI to write texts.

                      I am to fucking lazy to write more than keywords 😆.

                      I let it format into a proper text and tell it what it should adjust. That is one task AI is very good in (way better than myself).

                      For me, it is the faster approach, but I always tend to write with enormous information density (which is disliked by many people somehow) anyway.

                      I personally prefer the shortest wording with most information to read, so I sometimes let AI summarise.

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                      AI doesn't really "summarize" though, it just chooses random topics to filter out.

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                        Reading such articles made me vomit even prior AI 🤣 newspaper writers just love expanding 3 sentences to, like, 5 Absätze.

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                        5 Absätze

                        "Paragraphs" is the English word you were probably looking for 😅

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                          Is that why all the executives and directors at my giant tech company are pushing AI? Fuckwits...

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                            i'm honestly curious about your writing style. maybe you could develop it or refine it!
                            but yeah i don't judge you for using ai

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                            Of course I could, but I don’t want to 😆🤪

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                            • fenririii@lemmy.worldF [email protected]

                              Is that why all the executives and directors at my giant tech company are pushing AI? Fuckwits...

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                                This does not sound good for those people. Writing is a way of thinking. AI is a competitive cognitive artifact. People who use AI to write most of their written communication will get worse at thinking through writing.

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                                Hey this that you're doing is called gate keeping.

                                We got multiple versions of these every time a new tech comes along.

                                People defending typewriters. Or learning Latin. Or something better than a quill and jar of ink. Or paper being affordable.

                                Just. Stop.

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                                • jrs100000@lemmy.worldJ [email protected]

                                  People bad at math use calculators. People with bad handwriting prefer to type. Weak people use levers. Slow people rely more on wheels. Its like were a bunch of tool using primates or something.

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                                  This isn't quite the same thing. If we were talking a tool like augmented audio to text I'd agree. I'd probably even agree if it was an AI-proofreader style model where you feed it what you have to make sure it's generally comprehensible.

                                  Writing as a skill is about solidifying and conveying thoughts so they can be understood. The fact that it turns into text is kind of irrelevant. Hand waving that process is just rubber stamping something you kinda-sorta started the process of maybe thinking about.

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                                    This isn't quite the same thing. If we were talking a tool like augmented audio to text I'd agree. I'd probably even agree if it was an AI-proofreader style model where you feed it what you have to make sure it's generally comprehensible.

                                    Writing as a skill is about solidifying and conveying thoughts so they can be understood. The fact that it turns into text is kind of irrelevant. Hand waving that process is just rubber stamping something you kinda-sorta started the process of maybe thinking about.

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                                    I'm not really sure what you mean. They are not perfect, and in fact it will usually reduce the quality of output for a skilled writer, but half of the adults in the US cant read and write at a sixth grade level, and LLMs are greatly improving their ability to solidify and convey their thoughts in a more understandable way.

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                                    • paraphrand@lemmy.worldP [email protected]

                                      I appreciate that someone could tell I didn’t mean to be super broad.

                                      Jargon definitely falls under the umbrella I was pointing at. Communication among co-workers. Managers. Etc.

                                      The whole style feels cold to me. And impersonal. And I hate it. Jargon can definitely play a role. But I’m also ok with certain types that actually do make communication flow smoother. But yeah, the vapid jargon that masks a lack of understanding, curiosity or humility is a bummer.

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                                      The reason it feels like that is because it's addressed to someone who you don't know personally, even if you know them professionally. You never really know if a specific reference would offend them, if their dog just died, how "this email finds" them, etc...

                                      And in the context of both of you doing your jobs, you shouldn't care. Its easier to get day-to-day stuff done with niceties even if it's hollow.

                                      That's just the tone tho. People trying to insist they give a shit when everyone knows they don't is what bothers me. If you're firing someone don't sugar coat it.

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                                        Hey this that you're doing is called gate keeping.

                                        We got multiple versions of these every time a new tech comes along.

                                        People defending typewriters. Or learning Latin. Or something better than a quill and jar of ink. Or paper being affordable.

                                        Just. Stop.

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                                        You seriously need to look up gatekeeping because that's not what it means at all.

                                        Also you are making stuff up. No one has ever been against learning Latin, it is always being seen as something that a sophisticated gentleman knows, literally the opposite of whatever random nonsense you're claiming right now.

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                                          Most people don't need to think, they need to write. And AI helps them in that.

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                                          Most people don't need to think

                                          No they just don't do it. The world would be in a much better position if people engaged their brains occasionally.

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