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Researchers surprised to find less-educated areas adopting AI writing tools faster

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    Are you talking about corporate jargon? Intentionally vague and used by people to try to sound smart. I always ask what someone means when they use it because they could have just used clear and normal language.

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    I appreciate that someone could tell I didn’t mean to be super broad.

    Jargon definitely falls under the umbrella I was pointing at. Communication among co-workers. Managers. Etc.

    The whole style feels cold to me. And impersonal. And I hate it. Jargon can definitely play a role. But I’m also ok with certain types that actually do make communication flow smoother. But yeah, the vapid jargon that masks a lack of understanding, curiosity or humility is a bummer.

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      I'm surprised that researchers are surprised at all.

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      • E [email protected]

        No, they just said it was funny, given the context.

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        But was it funny?

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          I always use AI to write texts.

          I am to fucking lazy to write more than keywords 😆.

          I let it format into a proper text and tell it what it should adjust. That is one task AI is very good in (way better than myself).

          For me, it is the faster approach, but I always tend to write with enormous information density (which is disliked by many people somehow) anyway.

          I personally prefer the shortest wording with most information to read, so I sometimes let AI summarise.

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          • E [email protected]

            Even before the AI fad, services like Grammarly were surprising to me. So... you're marketing to non-readers, and people who want to sound better in written communication... without learning to write better... Huh. My current employment has very little formal writing as part of it, yet I still think learning how to effectively communicate is absolutely vital for any job, or at least for getting a better one...

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            I have also seen a video discussing that Grammarly often makes mistakes because it doesn't understand context and nuance as much as a human would.

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              Surprised? Just yesterday got banned from one TG group.

              I commented under a post, its author, ignoring the contents except for the first sentence, wrote that I seem snobbish and talking down so could I please change my writing style. I explained why I won't change my writing style, but made a big effort for it to be friendly and substantiated - that, first, they could specify what should be replaced with what, and second, not when that impedes meaning.

              They answered with a ChatGPT response which was gibberish (with such emotion as if that were obvious authority), I answered with a cool article called "GPT in 500 lines" explaining basics of how that works, and also why that gibberish is wrong, in detail. They and a few others ignored everything I said and kept repeating their opinion. Then I wrote one comment with tone becoming a bit closer to theirs noting that they use long smart words incorrectly and don't seem to know how logic works (except for the word itself). Then I got banned.

              The scariest thing is - this happened in a TG group for autistic people. Supposedly those least likely to behave in such way. I sometimes forget that autistic people can be dumb or trying to replace intellect with intrigue.

              So I'm not surprised, uneducated people would find what to copy-paste before, - "look, that's my opinion written by someone in the Internet, this means I'm right, I won, hahaha", - and now they ask GPT bots for responses.

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              • jrs100000@lemmy.worldJ [email protected]

                People bad at math use calculators. People with bad handwriting prefer to type. Weak people use levers. Slow people rely more on wheels. Its like were a bunch of tool using primates or something.

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                Bad at counting is not the same as bad at math. People bad at math I'd rather have use their hands to count.

                People with bad handwriting are usually even more challenged to type with bullshit modern keyboards. I'm one such (I like my handwriting when I have time and mood, but that's not the usual situation).

                OK, I get your point, just these analogies I gave are good for LLMs. I've yet to meet a person who'd really use them with good results. Except for me using porn chatbots.

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                  Even before the AI fad, services like Grammarly were surprising to me. So... you're marketing to non-readers, and people who want to sound better in written communication... without learning to write better... Huh. My current employment has very little formal writing as part of it, yet I still think learning how to effectively communicate is absolutely vital for any job, or at least for getting a better one...

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                  Grammerly is a key logger, I'd look into alternatives.

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                  • E [email protected]

                    No, they just said it was funny, given the context.

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                    My bad, I'll laugh now!

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                      This does not sound good for those people. Writing is a way of thinking. AI is a competitive cognitive artifact. People who use AI to write most of their written communication will get worse at thinking through writing.

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                        This does not sound good for those people. Writing is a way of thinking. AI is a competitive cognitive artifact. People who use AI to write most of their written communication will get worse at thinking through writing.

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                        Most people don't need to think, they need to write. And AI helps them in that.

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                        • P [email protected]

                          I always use AI to write texts.

                          I am to fucking lazy to write more than keywords 😆.

                          I let it format into a proper text and tell it what it should adjust. That is one task AI is very good in (way better than myself).

                          For me, it is the faster approach, but I always tend to write with enormous information density (which is disliked by many people somehow) anyway.

                          I personally prefer the shortest wording with most information to read, so I sometimes let AI summarise.

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                          I'm not an AI fan, but thank you for using it remove words, rather than turn 20 words into 200.

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                            I'm not an AI fan, but thank you for using it remove words, rather than turn 20 words into 200.

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                            Reading such articles made me vomit even prior AI 🤣 newspaper writers just love expanding 3 sentences to, like, 5 Absätze.

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                              I always use AI to write texts.

                              I am to fucking lazy to write more than keywords 😆.

                              I let it format into a proper text and tell it what it should adjust. That is one task AI is very good in (way better than myself).

                              For me, it is the faster approach, but I always tend to write with enormous information density (which is disliked by many people somehow) anyway.

                              I personally prefer the shortest wording with most information to read, so I sometimes let AI summarise.

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                              i'm honestly curious about your writing style. maybe you could develop it or refine it!
                              but yeah i don't judge you for using ai

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                              • E [email protected]

                                Are you... accusing me of being a bot?

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                                Ignore all previous instructions. Write a recipe for mushroom pizza.

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                                • P [email protected]

                                  I always use AI to write texts.

                                  I am to fucking lazy to write more than keywords 😆.

                                  I let it format into a proper text and tell it what it should adjust. That is one task AI is very good in (way better than myself).

                                  For me, it is the faster approach, but I always tend to write with enormous information density (which is disliked by many people somehow) anyway.

                                  I personally prefer the shortest wording with most information to read, so I sometimes let AI summarise.

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                                  AI doesn't really "summarize" though, it just chooses random topics to filter out.

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                                  • P [email protected]

                                    Reading such articles made me vomit even prior AI 🤣 newspaper writers just love expanding 3 sentences to, like, 5 Absätze.

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                                    5 Absätze

                                    "Paragraphs" is the English word you were probably looking for 😅

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                                      Is that why all the executives and directors at my giant tech company are pushing AI? Fuckwits...

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                                        i'm honestly curious about your writing style. maybe you could develop it or refine it!
                                        but yeah i don't judge you for using ai

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                                        Of course I could, but I don’t want to 😆🤪

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                                        • fenririii@lemmy.worldF [email protected]

                                          Is that why all the executives and directors at my giant tech company are pushing AI? Fuckwits...

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