French scientist denied US entry after phone messages critical of Trump found
-
i just downvoted because everyone else was doing it. I actually like your comment
I just upvoted because everyone else wasn't. I actually don't like your comment.
-
I notice you asked for an explanation and then only sort-of read the first sentence.
No, I read the whole thing, fully. I just disagreed with your analogy, thought it was a bad one, too verbose and obfuscating of the subject being talked about. Also it didn't cover someone searching your belongings with/without your permission, the subject being talked about. Law officials have more legal leeway to detain you than they do to search your belongings without your permission, so your analogy doesn't work (especially when you throw in beatings into it).
Also, didn't think your last paragraph was legally accurate, but didn't want to bother arguing the point, since 'amendment > law > policy/rule' is a well-known given. I'm aware of the difference. When I asked my original question, it was to confirm if the border enforcement people were actually honoring the 4th amendment, or not, whatever their thought processes were.
I did appreciate you taking the time to reply (and civilly at that) though, thank you.
~This~ ~comment~ ~is~ ~licensed~ ~under~ ~CC~ ~BY-NC-SA~ ~4.0~
-
Yeah but he can just say "hand over your unlocked phone or I will reject your entry" and then it's the same thing
Go to the US with a dedicated phone, just like to China.
-
Would be helpful if we could see those messages so we can form an opinion.
Is there any message that actually should keep a person out? Like who gives a fuck if they say Trump should be hung because he's a traitor and Russian asset?
They should be able to say something like that or like I hope Vance is getting raped by his orange daddy and still be welcome in our country. This is America damnit.
-
I just upvoted because everyone else wasn't. I actually don't like your comment.
what a rebel
-
I seriously doubt the intelligence of anyone still traveling to the USA. I hope whatever project he is working on is not critical.
these travels are scheduled months even years in advance depending on the field of study, nobody could have predicted how much worse second Trumps term would be. also other than travelling to somewhere where its bad much more reliable indicator of low intelligence are very confident statements outside of their own depth.
-
Fucking hell. Freedom of speech isn't a thing anymore and all those shitheads who were crying about simply being called out for saying things are fine with the government punishing people for saying things.
-
This might be normal opsec for a foreign agent, but absolutely ridiculous to expect average people or some French doctor to adhere to.
The reality is this issue would never have happened just three months ago, and the reason it's happening now is fascism.
The laws haven't changed. This didn't start three months ago.
-
The laws haven't changed. This didn't start three months ago.
Phone searches: not new. People being rejected at the border because of posts critical of the incoming president, yes, that is very much a new thing.
Would love to see some stories of people rejected at the border for criticism of Biden or Obama if you can find any.
-
Phone searches: not new. People being rejected at the border because of posts critical of the incoming president, yes, that is very much a new thing.
Would love to see some stories of people rejected at the border for criticism of Biden or Obama if you can find any.
People already worried then. There was no need for the law to grand this power. We don't need laws if wo rely on people to be just.
-
France’s research minister said a French scientist was denied entry to the US this month after immigration officers at an airport searched his phone and found messages in which he had expressed criticism of the Trump administration.
The USA has no place criticising the actions of other countries. Never has.
-
I seriously doubt the intelligence of anyone still traveling to the USA. I hope whatever project he is working on is not critical.
These types of things are usually scheduled well in advance. Just one example, it is worth noting that I am not saying that this was the reason the scientist traveled to the United States, scientific centers with certain types of very expensive equipment usually rent it to projects from other scientific centers and universities, sometimes with such high demand that you can wait years for it to be available for your project.
-
these travels are scheduled months even years in advance depending on the field of study, nobody could have predicted how much worse second Trumps term would be. also other than travelling to somewhere where its bad much more reliable indicator of low intelligence are very confident statements outside of their own depth.
-
France’s research minister said a French scientist was denied entry to the US this month after immigration officers at an airport searched his phone and found messages in which he had expressed criticism of the Trump administration.
-
Funny that the US has become more like Russia since Trump was elected.
Who would have thought. (Literally everyone)
-
Is there any message that actually should keep a person out? Like who gives a fuck if they say Trump should be hung because he's a traitor and Russian asset?
They should be able to say something like that or like I hope Vance is getting raped by his orange daddy and still be welcome in our country. This is America damnit.
Yes, death threats and rape threats are a good reason why a visitor should not be admitted to the United States.
-
more reliable indicator of low intelligence
I would add inability to use proper punctuation to that criteria.
*those criteria, criterion being a singular.
-
France’s research minister said a French scientist was denied entry to the US this month after immigration officers at an airport searched his phone and found messages in which he had expressed criticism of the Trump administration.
Welcome to Trumps America.
Where everything that Trump doesnt like, or is critical of him, is Terrorism.
-
I seriously doubt the intelligence of anyone still traveling to the USA. I hope whatever project he is working on is not critical.