The best thing you can do for the fediverse is just be kind
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The basic problem is thinking that conquering somebody is natural, inevitable, or good.
oh yes i forgot about canada and greenland somehow, sorry
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No one said it was
Fair enough
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They have one very important thing in common. They both support the alt-right. Fascists because they want to. Leftist because they're purists.
They do not support the alt-right. What are you even talking about? “MAGA communists” almost never show up on Lemmy, and when they do they are quickly shown the door.
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In America, right wingers support the republicans who have a verified track record of taking rights away, cheating elections and straight up lying. By refusing the see any other point of view, they reject open mindedness. They are unyielding in their beliefs and that is dangerous. It's whats led to the current affairs of the USA. Theyve been swindled for years. The thing I hate most of all is there core principle is hate. They hate minorities, immigrants, foreigners and gays. They always have some justification for it. "Gays are cross dressing and confusing my children. Gays are indecent. Minorities are abusing social programs. Jewish people are running criminal cabals. (Etc. etc.)
You'll have the "oh well I don't support THAT part of my political party but shrug nothing we can do
" publicans but don't do anything or even CRITICIZE it. And those that try to refute these points either outright deny that its true or use whataboutism.I will end this by saying I have right winger friends who are radicalizing away from me and I'm trying my hardest to show them that core beliefs of comraderie and compassion is far superior to the kool aid they're being forced fed by all major social media companies.
you've put it very well, especially the
You’ll have the “oh well I don’t support THAT part of my political party but shrug nothing we can do
” publicans but don’t do anything or even CRITICIZE it. And those that try to refute these points either outright deny that its true or use whataboutism.is something that perfectly describes my mother. no matter how bad the situation, she invariably comes back to "christianity will save us, we need to work harder, gays are abusing social programs, ..."
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Horseshoe theory is horseshit.
- ‘Horseshoe theory’ is nonsense – the far right and far left have little in common
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horseshoe_theory#Academic_studies_and_criticism
- Funny thing about Hannah Arendt’s construction of “totalitarianism”: She came from a bourgeois family and so was unsurprisingly anti-communist, and she was funded & promoted by the CIA.
Imperialist Propaganda and the Ideology of the Western Left Intelligentsia: From Anticommunism and Identity Politics to Democratic Illusions and FascismOne of the centerpieces of the cultural cold war was the Congress for Cultural Freedom (CCF), which was revealed in 1966 to be a CIA front. Hugh Wilford, who has researched the topic extensively, described the CCF as nothing short of one of the largest patrons of art and culture in the history of the world. Established in 1950, it promoted on the international scene the work of collaborationist academics such as Raymond Aron and Hannah Arendt over and against their Marxian rivals, including the likes of Jean-Paul Sartre and Simone de Beauvoir.
Thanks for showing up to be an example Davel
Davel is one of the ones who knows exactly what they are supporting, but choose to because they don't act in good faith.
Now kindly fuck off until next time Davel.
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oh yes i forgot about canada and greenland somehow, sorry
Right wing ideologies hinge on distracting people from their problems instead of solving them.
This arracts exclusively con men and dumb marks.
And the distractions they choose always end up being the erasure of minorities.
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Thanks for showing up to be an example Davel
Davel is one of the ones who knows exactly what they are supporting, but choose to because they don't act in good faith.
Now kindly fuck off until next time Davel.
You’ve once again shown your empty accusations and insults, contrary to OP’s advice in this post.
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The fediverse is small, and thats both a blessing and a curse - one of its several blessings is that in a smaller space we all individually have a bigger impact on what the culture of this space is like.
On this comm (and on lemmy broadly) there's a lot of discussion about how to grow the fediverse, what to improve, but an easy thing you can do for the fediverse is right in front of us-
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Be kind
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Ask people what they think, and why
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Approach folks you disagree with with curiosity rather than hostility
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Engage sincerely
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Ask yourself if there's something nice you can say
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Make this small space worth being in
A platform lives or dies by what's available on said platform and often we have this conversation in the context of "content" or posts - and we may never have as much content as reddit does. But content and posts aren't the only thing this kind of platform offers- it also offers people. It offers community, and human interaction.
Culture and community is lemmy and the fediverse's biggest differentiator, and we all have a role to play in shaping the culture of this space.
The biggest thing you can do to help the fediverse is make it a place worth being.
We come in peace
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In America, right wingers support the republicans who have a verified track record of taking rights away, cheating elections and straight up lying. By refusing the see any other point of view, they reject open mindedness. They are unyielding in their beliefs and that is dangerous. It's whats led to the current affairs of the USA. Theyve been swindled for years. The thing I hate most of all is there core principle is hate. They hate minorities, immigrants, foreigners and gays. They always have some justification for it. "Gays are cross dressing and confusing my children. Gays are indecent. Minorities are abusing social programs. Jewish people are running criminal cabals. (Etc. etc.)
You'll have the "oh well I don't support THAT part of my political party but shrug nothing we can do
" publicans but don't do anything or even CRITICIZE it. And those that try to refute these points either outright deny that its true or use whataboutism.I will end this by saying I have right winger friends who are radicalizing away from me and I'm trying my hardest to show them that core beliefs of comraderie and compassion is far superior to the kool aid they're being forced fed by all major social media companies.
actually let me think about it again:
IMO that somebody's always hateful is typically a sign of enormous psychological/emotional stress. so that tells me these people have a lot of problems, and probably don't know how to deal with the world. i wonder what education would do to them.
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Here are some more specific examples to think about!
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Compliment people's art and ask about their process
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Teach people about something you're knowledgeable on
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Give constructive criticism on peoples projects when it's welcome
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Thank people for posting things you're glad you got to see, tell them you enjoyed it
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Tell people you're glad they're here
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Tell people you hope they have a good day
Thanks for taking the time to read my thoughts
I'm not one for religion, but I for one would like to join the Church of Cris.
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That's what you say today because you think it's convenient to your argument, but it actually shows exactly what I'm talking about because the definition you've offered would make no sense at all to anyone a year ago, but people like you were still calling everyone Nazis then.
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They do not support the alt-right. What are you even talking about? “MAGA communists” almost never show up on Lemmy, and when they do they are quickly shown the door.
They support the alt-right by being overly idealistic and failing to partner with liberals and more moderate leftists to make progress.
Divide and be conquered.
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There was a movement in the blogging community ~15 years ago to leave positive comments on posts you like. It was an approach to conquer negative comments and a general destructive nature of online conversations. I still do it to this day. If I really like something or appreciate someone's work, I leave a nice comment.
A nice comment is worth more than 1000 upvotes, emotionally.
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Can people see what groups you subscribe to on Lemmy?
Other users can see which ones you comment on.
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They support the alt-right by being overly idealistic and failing to partner with liberals and more moderate leftists to make progress.
Divide and be conquered.
Partnering with liberals is idealistic. They always stab you in the back at the first opportunity.
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Fair enough
You can't say fairer than that, oh drat!
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Reddit is able to do global IP bans. The Fediverse is not able to do that because there's no "global".
I have an idea of how to fix that. Other fedi Devs are trying similar things too.
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They support the alt-right by being overly idealistic and failing to partner with liberals and more moderate leftists to make progress.
Divide and be conquered.
Look what you made me do!
I wouldn't have considered genocide, if you weren't so idealistic!!
If you had only partnered up with the people who only car about money, we could have returned to the status quo.
Mate, the goal is to be idealistic. No one is perfect, but we want to strive for what's the best and hope we reach there some day.
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The fediverse is small, and thats both a blessing and a curse - one of its several blessings is that in a smaller space we all individually have a bigger impact on what the culture of this space is like.
On this comm (and on lemmy broadly) there's a lot of discussion about how to grow the fediverse, what to improve, but an easy thing you can do for the fediverse is right in front of us-
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Be kind
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Ask people what they think, and why
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Approach folks you disagree with with curiosity rather than hostility
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Engage sincerely
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Ask yourself if there's something nice you can say
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Make this small space worth being in
A platform lives or dies by what's available on said platform and often we have this conversation in the context of "content" or posts - and we may never have as much content as reddit does. But content and posts aren't the only thing this kind of platform offers- it also offers people. It offers community, and human interaction.
Culture and community is lemmy and the fediverse's biggest differentiator, and we all have a role to play in shaping the culture of this space.
The biggest thing you can do to help the fediverse is make it a place worth being.
It's extremely hard to be charitable online, when you have instances like these:
- https://map-wiki.com/index.php/List_of_active_instances_of_map_fediverse
- https://wiki.yesmap.net/wiki/Pediverse
- https://fediverse.wiki/wiki/Poast
- https://truthsocial.com/
I'm sorry that I cannot “be kind” to the intolerant.
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Thanks for showing up to be an example Davel
Davel is one of the ones who knows exactly what they are supporting, but choose to because they don't act in good faith.
Now kindly fuck off until next time Davel.
This is an example of what being nice is for the average Lemmy user
Jesus Christ you people can't even comment without going ballistic at each other over the slightest thing
