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How would you prove that you're from the future?

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  • tal@lemmy.todayT [email protected]

    I'd go with as-yet-undiscovered scientific knowledge. Your predictions might alter historical events, but they shouldn't change the way nature operates.

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    IMO, scientific knowledge isn't that useful if you only have a surface-level understanding of how things work. Either way, let's say you know enough to get a reputation as a genius inventor or something like that, maybe some people would actually believe if you claim that you're from the future then, but I think there would be more people who just think you're crazy (or "eccentric" if you're lucky).

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      Say that you suddenly wake up in the year 1875. You end up talking to someone and you want to convince them that you’re from the future. How do you do that?

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      I’d stand on street corners telling everyone who passed by that one day people would be putting pineapple on pizzas.

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        Say that you suddenly wake up in the year 1875. You end up talking to someone and you want to convince them that you’re from the future. How do you do that?

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        Find where to submit a patent, and patent the Telephone as Bell creates that in 1876, and patent the internal gas combustion engine for cars.
        Mostly need the engine because I'd probably fail to be able to explain properly how to get a phone working properly, I understand the concepts, but proving enough for a patent to hold up, not sure.

        Congratulations, now I've become an enemy of the world because I'd have to use all the money I made from the engines to invest quickly in converting to renewable non gasoline based combustion engines to save the world from myself

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          First I tell them the proof to Fermat's theorem.

          (For those who aren't familiar with it: it originates from 1637, but nobody in the world was able to prove it until 1994. Therefore it was known among scientists and scholars in all the world during these centuries as one of the greatest riddles in history)

          I get world famous, instantly, with newspaper headlines everywhere.

          Mathematicians in all countries are able to verify my words, so I gain endless credibility, and I can travel to all kinds of places where they want to hear me speak etc.

          A little bit later they will find out that I am not that good at math. Well, not bad, but not good enough by far to find that proof. So there is the next riddle about me.

          Then I can tell that I am from the future. And since I have gained credibility before, they are going to listen now.

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          Do you know the proof by heart? Would you be able to recite it like that?

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          • maestro@fedia.ioM [email protected]

            Do you know the proof by heart? Would you be able to recite it like that?

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            It was purely a theoretical question, wasn't it 🙂

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              Find where to submit a patent, and patent the Telephone as Bell creates that in 1876, and patent the internal gas combustion engine for cars.
              Mostly need the engine because I'd probably fail to be able to explain properly how to get a phone working properly, I understand the concepts, but proving enough for a patent to hold up, not sure.

              Congratulations, now I've become an enemy of the world because I'd have to use all the money I made from the engines to invest quickly in converting to renewable non gasoline based combustion engines to save the world from myself

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              You know both telephone and internal combustion engine well enough to do that?

              I'd fail without Wikipedia to check the facts.

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                It was purely a theoretical question, wasn't it 🙂

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                No, the question was "How do you [prove that your from the future]?" You laid out a scheme, which you are likely not capable of doing, especially because you missed the bit about the terrifying complexity of that particular proof.

                Wiles' demonstration of Fermat's simply stated proposition is more than a hundred pages of complex math involving such esoteric concepts as Selmer groups, Hecke algebras, elliptic curves, modular forms, Euler systems and Galois representations.
                350 Years Later, Fermat's Last Theorem Finally Proved

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                  Say that you suddenly wake up in the year 1875. You end up talking to someone and you want to convince them that you’re from the future. How do you do that?

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                  I wouldn't try and prove anything.

                  I would "invent" a few basic tchotchkis and nick-nacks to get money, then out to California ahead of the Gold Rush Hollywood? to ...something, I dunno, and buy land.

                  Invent a couple variations on heat pumps and electric motors. By 1928 sail away to New Zealand.

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                    Say that you suddenly wake up in the year 1875. You end up talking to someone and you want to convince them that you’re from the future. How do you do that?

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                    I would speak Polish and it would be enough proof with the right story to convince someone. I would be then immidietely killed for danger to the Russification and Germanisation efforts.

                    (Poland didn't exist in 1875)

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                      No, the question was "How do you [prove that your from the future]?" You laid out a scheme, which you are likely not capable of doing, especially because you missed the bit about the terrifying complexity of that particular proof.

                      Wiles' demonstration of Fermat's simply stated proposition is more than a hundred pages of complex math involving such esoteric concepts as Selmer groups, Hecke algebras, elliptic curves, modular forms, Euler systems and Galois representations.
                      350 Years Later, Fermat's Last Theorem Finally Proved

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                      So I guess, if you take this seriously, you better start preparing.

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                        I wouldn't try and prove anything.

                        I would "invent" a few basic tchotchkis and nick-nacks to get money, then out to California ahead of the Gold Rush Hollywood? to ...something, I dunno, and buy land.

                        Invent a couple variations on heat pumps and electric motors. By 1928 sail away to New Zealand.

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                        California's gold rush was 1849.

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                          Say that you suddenly wake up in the year 1875. You end up talking to someone and you want to convince them that you’re from the future. How do you do that?

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                          I won't. My best hope is to find an engineering firm and convince them to hire me as a calculator. I won't have any credentials, but it was common for people without a formal education to perform the basic calculations under the direction of a licensed engineer.

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                            You know both telephone and internal combustion engine well enough to do that?

                            I'd fail without Wikipedia to check the facts.

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                            A gas powered engine, for sure. That's why I said the telephone might not end up holding up. Spark, fuel/oxygen varies by carburetor. Contained in a cylinder. Head pushed up, attach to opposite side, and get your sparks in sync. Carburators don't need electronics so I wouldn't try for fuel injectors at that time. All you need is a working concept and evidence it can work for a patent really. Then anyone who comes about wanting to use the concept, say Mercedes in Europe or Ford after in the U.S. and you take your payouts. Don't need to continue making the products. Invest the earnings into battery research. Paying researchers and giving them the information that we can beat lead acid with nickle cadmium and eventually lithium ion should get us pushed into a company patenting the future of battery tech for that time. Throw in sodium ion based for shits and we've got the future of all batteries for 100 years paying a fragment of production.

                            *Note by in sync you should be able to instigate the spark just using the downward stroke of the opposite head. So the time could never be off, just have to ensure your spark stays connected to the aforementioned lead acid batteries that we are looking to phase out

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                              This is one of the few answers that would actually work without you being thrown in a mental asylum. You get into any university, ask to get the math/physics teachers together and present it to them, this certainly will start a chain reaction.

                              To add something to that, after you’ve been "busted", adding "in the timeline or universe I’m from, it’s been proven by Andrew Wiles in 1994"

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                              You get into any university, ask to get the math/physics teachers together and present it to them, this certainly will start a chain reaction.

                              The demonstration of the proof is actually incredibility complicated. You'd need to develop many new concepts of mathematics (all requiring proper proofs and getting your new contemporaries to agree with you) before you can preform it.

                              All without the use of a electronic calculator and modern computer graphing and visualization techniques.

                              I'm not convinced its actually feasible... You'd be recognized as one of the greatest mathematicians of all time from all the new concepts you've introduced, not just the proof for Fermat's last theorem. I'd pick something else. Like predicting an earthquake or something.

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                                I’d stand on street corners telling everyone who passed by that one day people would be putting pineapple on pizzas.

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                                Hehe

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                                  You get into any university, ask to get the math/physics teachers together and present it to them, this certainly will start a chain reaction.

                                  The demonstration of the proof is actually incredibility complicated. You'd need to develop many new concepts of mathematics (all requiring proper proofs and getting your new contemporaries to agree with you) before you can preform it.

                                  All without the use of a electronic calculator and modern computer graphing and visualization techniques.

                                  I'm not convinced its actually feasible... You'd be recognized as one of the greatest mathematicians of all time from all the new concepts you've introduced, not just the proof for Fermat's last theorem. I'd pick something else. Like predicting an earthquake or something.

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                                  Istr that Ramanujan claimed that Kali gave him ideas in his dreams. Maybe he was actually a mathematician from the future but decided that telling the truth would not be feasible.

                                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Srinivasa_Ramanujan

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                                    Say that you suddenly wake up in the year 1875. You end up talking to someone and you want to convince them that you’re from the future. How do you do that?

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                                    If I wake up in 1875 right where I am and a birch tree hasn't appeared through my chest, then I'm a half hour hike away from Fort Saskatchewan. A North West Mounted Police outpost+jail and they'll speak English I can understand in 1875.

                                    In 1879 they'll hang a whiskey addicted Cree man who killed and ate his six children, his wife, mother, and brother. Swift Runner or Ka-Ki-Si-Kutchin. Got kicked out of the fort (I think he worked there? So he might be around already), and then his own tribe kicked his dysfunctional ass out too before he did this.

                                    From Canada Day I wandered through a few times the new replica Fort the city built and read the history placards. So I'd also know a few of policeman names, some trivia about them, and how some of them would die. Mostly by fighting natives. Most of them were cunts frankly. Yes yes very surprising to nobody.

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                                      Say that you suddenly wake up in the year 1875. You end up talking to someone and you want to convince them that you’re from the future. How do you do that?

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                                      I'd be in my own house, although it may look a little different. The guy that lives there would, presumably, be very confused. So I'd show him pictures of it on my phone and he would probably be even more confused and probably burn me alive as a witch.

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                                        It was purely a theoretical question, wasn't it 🙂

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                                        But how would you get a job without your social security number? /s (sorry, from another thread that someone took too seriously)

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                                          I would speak Polish and it would be enough proof with the right story to convince someone. I would be then immidietely killed for danger to the Russification and Germanisation efforts.

                                          (Poland didn't exist in 1875)

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                                          Hey, Ludrol. "A bip a shap a slip a tap a eyshioni" [I am from the year 4877 and I speak Bippy, a language of the Bipp Republic of Darkness a country that won't exist for another thousand years.

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