How would you prove that you're from the future?
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No, the question was "How do you [prove that your from the future]?" You laid out a scheme, which you are likely not capable of doing, especially because you missed the bit about the terrifying complexity of that particular proof.
Wiles' demonstration of Fermat's simply stated proposition is more than a hundred pages of complex math involving such esoteric concepts as Selmer groups, Hecke algebras, elliptic curves, modular forms, Euler systems and Galois representations.
350 Years Later, Fermat's Last Theorem Finally ProvedSo I guess, if you take this seriously, you better start preparing.
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I wouldn't try and prove anything.
I would "invent" a few basic tchotchkis and nick-nacks to get money, then out to California ahead of
the Gold RushHollywood? to ...something, I dunno, and buy land.Invent a couple variations on heat pumps and electric motors. By 1928 sail away to New Zealand.
California's gold rush was 1849.
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Say that you suddenly wake up in the year 1875. You end up talking to someone and you want to convince them that you’re from the future. How do you do that?
I won't. My best hope is to find an engineering firm and convince them to hire me as a calculator. I won't have any credentials, but it was common for people without a formal education to perform the basic calculations under the direction of a licensed engineer.
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You know both telephone and internal combustion engine well enough to do that?
I'd fail without Wikipedia to check the facts.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]A gas powered engine, for sure. That's why I said the telephone might not end up holding up. Spark, fuel/oxygen varies by carburetor. Contained in a cylinder. Head pushed up, attach to opposite side, and get your sparks in sync. Carburators don't need electronics so I wouldn't try for fuel injectors at that time. All you need is a working concept and evidence it can work for a patent really. Then anyone who comes about wanting to use the concept, say Mercedes in Europe or Ford after in the U.S. and you take your payouts. Don't need to continue making the products. Invest the earnings into battery research. Paying researchers and giving them the information that we can beat lead acid with nickle cadmium and eventually lithium ion should get us pushed into a company patenting the future of battery tech for that time. Throw in sodium ion based for shits and we've got the future of all batteries for 100 years paying a fragment of production.
*Note by in sync you should be able to instigate the spark just using the downward stroke of the opposite head. So the time could never be off, just have to ensure your spark stays connected to the aforementioned lead acid batteries that we are looking to phase out
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This is one of the few answers that would actually work without you being thrown in a mental asylum. You get into any university, ask to get the math/physics teachers together and present it to them, this certainly will start a chain reaction.
To add something to that, after you’ve been "busted", adding "in the timeline or universe I’m from, it’s been proven by Andrew Wiles in 1994"
wrote on last edited by [email protected]You get into any university, ask to get the math/physics teachers together and present it to them, this certainly will start a chain reaction.
The demonstration of the proof is actually incredibility complicated. You'd need to develop many new concepts of mathematics (all requiring proper proofs and getting your new contemporaries to agree with you) before you can preform it.
All without the use of a electronic calculator and modern computer graphing and visualization techniques.
I'm not convinced its actually feasible... You'd be recognized as one of the greatest mathematicians of all time from all the new concepts you've introduced, not just the proof for Fermat's last theorem. I'd pick something else. Like predicting an earthquake or something.
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I’d stand on street corners telling everyone who passed by that one day people would be putting pineapple on pizzas.
Hehe
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You get into any university, ask to get the math/physics teachers together and present it to them, this certainly will start a chain reaction.
The demonstration of the proof is actually incredibility complicated. You'd need to develop many new concepts of mathematics (all requiring proper proofs and getting your new contemporaries to agree with you) before you can preform it.
All without the use of a electronic calculator and modern computer graphing and visualization techniques.
I'm not convinced its actually feasible... You'd be recognized as one of the greatest mathematicians of all time from all the new concepts you've introduced, not just the proof for Fermat's last theorem. I'd pick something else. Like predicting an earthquake or something.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]Istr that Ramanujan claimed that Kali gave him ideas in his dreams. Maybe he was actually a mathematician from the future but decided that telling the truth would not be feasible.
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Say that you suddenly wake up in the year 1875. You end up talking to someone and you want to convince them that you’re from the future. How do you do that?
If I wake up in 1875 right where I am and a birch tree hasn't appeared through my chest, then I'm a half hour hike away from Fort Saskatchewan. A North West Mounted Police outpost+jail and they'll speak English I can understand in 1875.
In 1879 they'll hang a whiskey addicted Cree man who killed and ate his six children, his wife, mother, and brother. Swift Runner or Ka-Ki-Si-Kutchin. Got kicked out of the fort (I think he worked there? So he might be around already), and then his own tribe kicked his dysfunctional ass out too before he did this.
From Canada Day I wandered through a few times the new replica Fort the city built and read the history placards. So I'd also know a few of policeman names, some trivia about them, and how some of them would die. Mostly by fighting natives. Most of them were cunts frankly. Yes yes very surprising to nobody.
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Say that you suddenly wake up in the year 1875. You end up talking to someone and you want to convince them that you’re from the future. How do you do that?
I'd be in my own house, although it may look a little different. The guy that lives there would, presumably, be very confused. So I'd show him pictures of it on my phone and he would probably be even more confused and probably burn me alive as a witch.
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It was purely a theoretical question, wasn't it
But how would you get a job without your social security number? /s (sorry, from another thread that someone took too seriously)
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I would speak Polish and it would be enough proof with the right story to convince someone. I would be then immidietely killed for danger to the Russification and Germanisation efforts.
(Poland didn't exist in 1875)
Hey, Ludrol. "A bip a shap a slip a tap a eyshioni" [I am from the year 4877 and I speak Bippy, a language of the Bipp Republic of Darkness a country that won't exist for another thousand years.
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California's gold rush was 1849.
Aw, dammit. See, I would have showed up as late to that party as if I had done it today.
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Say that you suddenly wake up in the year 1875. You end up talking to someone and you want to convince them that you’re from the future. How do you do that?
Hmm. I would need to first be vaccinated vs. yellow fever, because apparently that hit so hard right then it left only a few hundred people. My own house is from 1940, though it's in the city now it was not developed yet. Holy fuck, it's also Reconstruction right after the civil war.
I don't think I would even try. Would be enough of a struggle finding a way to survive. And if we have learned one thing from science fiction, it's don't mess with the timeline.
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Hey, Ludrol. "A bip a shap a slip a tap a eyshioni" [I am from the year 4877 and I speak Bippy, a language of the Bipp Republic of Darkness a country that won't exist for another thousand years.
It won't work for Bipp Republic of Darkness in 2025 but for Poland in 1875 it would. Recently the January Uprising of 1863 has failed. The people will want to believe that Poland will exist in the future and that their sacrifice wasn't/was* in vain. Due to emotional baggage of occupation it will work as people want hope and believe that they will win. I am not calling to logic but to emotions.
Poland is a country with thousand years of history.
*Depends if I will tak to Pozytywista or Romantyk
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I would show them Fortnite dances unimaginable to their primitive minds.
Elvis Presley dancing was considered borderline obscene not that long ago comparatively, so you might end up in the sanitarium if you said "hey, watch me floss!"
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Hehe
This made me read the second post like they were trying to stealth infiltrate pineapple on pizza into the culture...
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It won't work for Bipp Republic of Darkness in 2025 but for Poland in 1875 it would. Recently the January Uprising of 1863 has failed. The people will want to believe that Poland will exist in the future and that their sacrifice wasn't/was* in vain. Due to emotional baggage of occupation it will work as people want hope and believe that they will win. I am not calling to logic but to emotions.
Poland is a country with thousand years of history.
*Depends if I will tak to Pozytywista or Romantyk
I guess I don't know enough European history. Which means that when I say "that makes a lot of sense. You have convinced me" it means very very little and you should not feel like you have won any debate.
Just kidding. The Bipp Republic supports your methods.
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Say that you suddenly wake up in the year 1875. You end up talking to someone and you want to convince them that you’re from the future. How do you do that?
I'd probably be burned for witchcraft or be shot for it, but let people listen to my mechanical heart valve.
I imagine the average person would 100% freak out over hearing it. A ticking sound? Inside a person's heart? In a time when mechanical body parts aren't normal or really all that existent? That's a burning as a wizard or being shot as an overreaction.
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I would speak Polish and it would be enough proof with the right story to convince someone. I would be then immidietely killed for danger to the Russification and Germanisation efforts.
(Poland didn't exist in 1875)
Wouldn’t they just identify you as a subversive from 1875, instead of a liberated person from the future?
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A gas powered engine, for sure. That's why I said the telephone might not end up holding up. Spark, fuel/oxygen varies by carburetor. Contained in a cylinder. Head pushed up, attach to opposite side, and get your sparks in sync. Carburators don't need electronics so I wouldn't try for fuel injectors at that time. All you need is a working concept and evidence it can work for a patent really. Then anyone who comes about wanting to use the concept, say Mercedes in Europe or Ford after in the U.S. and you take your payouts. Don't need to continue making the products. Invest the earnings into battery research. Paying researchers and giving them the information that we can beat lead acid with nickle cadmium and eventually lithium ion should get us pushed into a company patenting the future of battery tech for that time. Throw in sodium ion based for shits and we've got the future of all batteries for 100 years paying a fragment of production.
*Note by in sync you should be able to instigate the spark just using the downward stroke of the opposite head. So the time could never be off, just have to ensure your spark stays connected to the aforementioned lead acid batteries that we are looking to phase out
strikes me as easier to make a working prototype of a phone. at least if simple speakers and mics already exist. did they?