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Tesla's European car sales nosedive for fifth month as customers switch to Chinese EVs

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    #67

    I think it also has to do with the economy, not just nazi salutes. Its a bad job market, people dont have money, so luxary cars are not going to be attractive.

    Also there is hardly any reason to buy a Tesla... Volvo recharge and others are better cars, made by actual car companies with a good reputation for quality.

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      And in the US we just block foreign options because it is gov policy to artificially support specific corporations.

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      I think that's the invisible hand of the market. The visible part is the products you don't get to have.

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        And in the US we just block foreign options because it is gov policy to artificially support specific corporations.

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        the country of free market capitalism...

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        • 1984@lemmy.today1 [email protected]

          I think it also has to do with the economy, not just nazi salutes. Its a bad job market, people dont have money, so luxary cars are not going to be attractive.

          Also there is hardly any reason to buy a Tesla... Volvo recharge and others are better cars, made by actual car companies with a good reputation for quality.

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          it definitely has to do when musk being a nazi.

          Tesla used to be the brand, the good quality car, the one that you want to get.

          (at least that was how the public saw it, car affictionados don't count)

          now it's just cringe

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            Currently only proper options for EV is either Tesla, Korean EV's (KIA, Hyundai) or Chinese. European and japanese EV's are imo shit at the moment. Teslas I will avoid like plague, due to Nazis. KIA's and Hyundai's are so hard to get, so I am really considering getting BYD, Polestar or XPeng.

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            • 1984@lemmy.today1 [email protected]

              I think it also has to do with the economy, not just nazi salutes. Its a bad job market, people dont have money, so luxary cars are not going to be attractive.

              Also there is hardly any reason to buy a Tesla... Volvo recharge and others are better cars, made by actual car companies with a good reputation for quality.

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              Idk why are you being downvoted. Musk being a nazi is the last of the problems for Tesla. They had being outcompete by BYD in every measure.

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                I think it also has to do with the economy, not just nazi salutes. Its a bad job market, people dont have money, so luxary cars are not going to be attractive.

                Also there is hardly any reason to buy a Tesla... Volvo recharge and others are better cars, made by actual car companies with a good reputation for quality.

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                Telsa used to be a status symbol, and sexy.

                But then their chief chap couldn't seem to publicly pronounce the popular phrase "Nazi's suck and I wish to have nothing to do with them".

                Now Telsa is an anti-status symbol.

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                  You could just say, "you're right, I probably should have."

                  Try it sometime, it's nice.

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                  "the headline is wrong"

                  Wahhhh you didn't read the article!

                  "that's true. you're right. I probably should have. Where I would then return to the single sentence that I'm referring to and nothing will have changed. Do you even understand what I'm talking about? Because that would be nice."

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                    The headline to me clearly is stating that people are not buying Teslas and are buying alternative Chinese based EVs instead. I think that anyone that's heard Elon's name over the past 6 months can read between the lines and understand the causation here.

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                    Well - I would hope. But that's not the same as putting it in there is it.

                    "Tesla sales drop as EU consumers choose Chinese brands plus Musk is y'know WINK"

                    I mean, I can see why they didn't go with that one but still. There are plenty of people who don't understand Elmo is an out-and-out nazi, cozy with putin and Peter Thiel and will destroy the country as soon as possible. Not mentioning him and his drugged-out asinine ideas in the headline is a missed opportunity.

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                      Currently only proper options for EV is either Tesla, Korean EV's (KIA, Hyundai) or Chinese. European and japanese EV's are imo shit at the moment. Teslas I will avoid like plague, due to Nazis. KIA's and Hyundai's are so hard to get, so I am really considering getting BYD, Polestar or XPeng.

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                      Eh, ID7 and A6 are getting there. BMW i4 ain't bad either.

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                        Root for better public transport and active cities instead of car dependency 🙂

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                        Living in the boonies, I'm never going to get a bus going by every ten minutes so a solid market for good EVs is still what I root for.

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                          Currently only proper options for EV is either Tesla, Korean EV's (KIA, Hyundai) or Chinese. European and japanese EV's are imo shit at the moment. Teslas I will avoid like plague, due to Nazis. KIA's and Hyundai's are so hard to get, so I am really considering getting BYD, Polestar or XPeng.

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                          Why's that? I drove a Cupra Born last week, pretty decent imo. I also drove a VW ID3 and a BMW i3. So far the only European EV I didn't like was the Audi e-tron. I haven't driven a Korean or Chinese EV yet, so I can't really compare. What do you prefer about them?

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                            Living in the boonies, I'm never going to get a bus going by every ten minutes so a solid market for good EVs is still what I root for.

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                            Of course, public transport has a limit and we can root for both as well, including protected bike lanes even in the boonies like we successfully see in the Netherlands

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                              Well - I would hope. But that's not the same as putting it in there is it.

                              "Tesla sales drop as EU consumers choose Chinese brands plus Musk is y'know WINK"

                              I mean, I can see why they didn't go with that one but still. There are plenty of people who don't understand Elmo is an out-and-out nazi, cozy with putin and Peter Thiel and will destroy the country as soon as possible. Not mentioning him and his drugged-out asinine ideas in the headline is a missed opportunity.

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                              The title isn't there to tell the whole story though. It should give a high level summary and then the details are in the article. If you hypothetically put something like what you suggested, it still doesn't give all of the context, and the title would need to be longer to include the history of Musk, his drug use, his position with Tesla, etc, and you can't put that all in the title. I'm all for dunking on that Nazi whenever we can, but I personally don't think that the title of this article deserves any criticism, especially in the age of clickbait titles that don't give anything, this one is decently descriptive.

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                                The title isn't there to tell the whole story though. It should give a high level summary and then the details are in the article. If you hypothetically put something like what you suggested, it still doesn't give all of the context, and the title would need to be longer to include the history of Musk, his drug use, his position with Tesla, etc, and you can't put that all in the title. I'm all for dunking on that Nazi whenever we can, but I personally don't think that the title of this article deserves any criticism, especially in the age of clickbait titles that don't give anything, this one is decently descriptive.

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                                I’ll give you that. I just want more. Elmo’s such a stain that not factoring it directly to Tesla-going-down stories seems like skimping.

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                                  Currently only proper options for EV is either Tesla, Korean EV's (KIA, Hyundai) or Chinese. European and japanese EV's are imo shit at the moment. Teslas I will avoid like plague, due to Nazis. KIA's and Hyundai's are so hard to get, so I am really considering getting BYD, Polestar or XPeng.

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                                  The Ford Mach E is a good EV.

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                                    Currently only proper options for EV is either Tesla, Korean EV's (KIA, Hyundai) or Chinese. European and japanese EV's are imo shit at the moment. Teslas I will avoid like plague, due to Nazis. KIA's and Hyundai's are so hard to get, so I am really considering getting BYD, Polestar or XPeng.

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                                    I have a Cadillac lyriq and I love it.

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                                      I think it also has to do with the economy, not just nazi salutes. Its a bad job market, people dont have money, so luxary cars are not going to be attractive.

                                      Also there is hardly any reason to buy a Tesla... Volvo recharge and others are better cars, made by actual car companies with a good reputation for quality.

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                                      There are plenty of Europeans that still have money. These are aimed at the upper upper classes and people in those strata have not been feeling the economic pinch the way many of us have.

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                                        Hitler was "incendiary" and "political" but I think there's a four-letter word so much better, so much more concise, that this wording is actual disinformation.

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                                        Journalists do Nazi what you're talking about.

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                                          China famously doesn't have a far-right problem, unlike the EU or the USA, what are you talking about?

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                                          unless you for some reason like leftist dictator who would like to rule the world more than the right one, there isn't really practical difference in this

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