Why is Lemmy attempting to radicalise people to enforce class wars?
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At this stage the whole Lemmy project feels like a CIA experiment, part of some as-of-yet unknown group of experiments / operation given a vague name. All the content is on the extremist-side, enforces attitudes perfect to embolden class wars and young people (no doubt the majority of people here) aren't worldly enough to know the difference. It's full of AI-generated political memes and comments.
Where's the trove of knowledge? The awesome positive hobbies? If it's around, it's all drown out by the manipulative noise.
This could be easily fixed in the coding of Lemmy, but... it hasn't.
I'm becoming very di-senlightened by Lemmy, Let the abuse and downvotes ensue.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]You should block a lot of people and communities, it helps with the ai nonsense. As for the radicalism, Lemmy was developed by communists. It is a niche free open source semi-decentralized platform that is free of ads. It's gonna attract the type of people who have a lot of problems with capitalism. Radical leftists didn't come here to radicalize people, they were here first. If it isn't for you then it isn't for you but as one of those radical leftists I do encourage you to give our world-view a fair glance. Read the manifesto or watch a youtuber like secondthought. Maybe listen to a speech from Parenti. It changed my life permenantly and it could do the same for you.
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At this stage the whole Lemmy project feels like a CIA experiment, part of some as-of-yet unknown group of experiments / operation given a vague name. All the content is on the extremist-side, enforces attitudes perfect to embolden class wars and young people (no doubt the majority of people here) aren't worldly enough to know the difference. It's full of AI-generated political memes and comments.
Where's the trove of knowledge? The awesome positive hobbies? If it's around, it's all drown out by the manipulative noise.
This could be easily fixed in the coding of Lemmy, but... it hasn't.
I'm becoming very di-senlightened by Lemmy, Let the abuse and downvotes ensue.
sounds like a skill issue to me, but then again i doubt any of those hobbyist communities spread across the fediverse are nearly as active as on reddit.
Also I don't think inviting people (especially the young, most propaganda is probably taught in schools) in on the class war is a bad thing. Capitalists are the enemy of the people.
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At this stage the whole Lemmy project feels like a CIA experiment, part of some as-of-yet unknown group of experiments / operation given a vague name. All the content is on the extremist-side, enforces attitudes perfect to embolden class wars and young people (no doubt the majority of people here) aren't worldly enough to know the difference. It's full of AI-generated political memes and comments.
Where's the trove of knowledge? The awesome positive hobbies? If it's around, it's all drown out by the manipulative noise.
This could be easily fixed in the coding of Lemmy, but... it hasn't.
I'm becoming very di-senlightened by Lemmy, Let the abuse and downvotes ensue.
Do you have any evidence of major AI generated memes and comments? Sometimes I see an obvious AI image (and down vote it), and some communities are made for the purpose of AI so I blocked them. But aside from that, have you found much generative AI slop?
And if so, how would you fix that in code? Some sort of captcha? I think the volume is low enough that it wouldn't help.
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At this stage the whole Lemmy project feels like a CIA experiment, part of some as-of-yet unknown group of experiments / operation given a vague name. All the content is on the extremist-side, enforces attitudes perfect to embolden class wars and young people (no doubt the majority of people here) aren't worldly enough to know the difference. It's full of AI-generated political memes and comments.
Where's the trove of knowledge? The awesome positive hobbies? If it's around, it's all drown out by the manipulative noise.
This could be easily fixed in the coding of Lemmy, but... it hasn't.
I'm becoming very di-senlightened by Lemmy, Let the abuse and downvotes ensue.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]If your feed has lots of ai i would also recommend blocking some posters, though in my experience lemmy has way more anti ai and downvoting of annything ai then whatever is left of the mainstream networks.
Another recomendation is to join a smaller instance you align with, you will have a much better experience.
Yes we do go rather hard left. Especially when it comes to the only war that counts, the class war, ruling elites versus the exploited masses. Its part of what makes this place so refreshing because corporate media heavily dislikes the need for global change. Causing people that agree to flock here.
And yes you can easily get radicalized here, another thing which is refreshing is how up front and not secretive people are about the fact we do alot of self propaganda for our personal flavor of ideals. After all lemmy is not for children (suprisingly many older people) you have to form your own opinions and people tend to be (on average) more respectfull towards diversity in idealogy. You don’t get insta downvoted as much as you get honest replies of someone wanting to discuss it.
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At this stage the whole Lemmy project feels like a CIA experiment, part of some as-of-yet unknown group of experiments / operation given a vague name. All the content is on the extremist-side, enforces attitudes perfect to embolden class wars and young people (no doubt the majority of people here) aren't worldly enough to know the difference. It's full of AI-generated political memes and comments.
Where's the trove of knowledge? The awesome positive hobbies? If it's around, it's all drown out by the manipulative noise.
This could be easily fixed in the coding of Lemmy, but... it hasn't.
I'm becoming very di-senlightened by Lemmy, Let the abuse and downvotes ensue.
Hmmm, the CIA is against class warfare (in the sense that you are using it here).
Different servers have different communities. You should look at the local timeline of various servers to find a server that perhaps suits you better than lemmy.world
You should also subscribe to communities on various servers to see the kinds of things you enjoy. Like cats or aww. Various birds always seem to have a lot of engagement across the Fediverse.
Class warfare exists whether you engage in it or not. When capital gains is taxed less than salaries for labour, that's class warfare. When the success of a government is measured by the gains of investments like stocks and real estate rather than the economic circumstances of the majority of the people, that's class warfare.
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Hmmm, the CIA is against class warfare (in the sense that you are using it here).
Different servers have different communities. You should look at the local timeline of various servers to find a server that perhaps suits you better than lemmy.world
You should also subscribe to communities on various servers to see the kinds of things you enjoy. Like cats or aww. Various birds always seem to have a lot of engagement across the Fediverse.
Class warfare exists whether you engage in it or not. When capital gains is taxed less than salaries for labour, that's class warfare. When the success of a government is measured by the gains of investments like stocks and real estate rather than the economic circumstances of the majority of the people, that's class warfare.
PS the Fediverse in general skews a bit older. It's generally the more tech savvy people that have become exhausted by big tech platforms.
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sounds like a skill issue to me, but then again i doubt any of those hobbyist communities spread across the fediverse are nearly as active as on reddit.
Also I don't think inviting people (especially the young, most propaganda is probably taught in schools) in on the class war is a bad thing. Capitalists are the enemy of the people.
There should be no class war. A community that fosters it is not helping.
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Not that I entirely disagree, but..
This could be easily fixed in the coding of Lemmy, but… it hasn’t.
I'm not sure how this could be fixed on the software level? Care to elaborate? Or even better, write up an issue + PR which proposes the "easy fix".
wrote on last edited by [email protected]if (content == political) {
content.censor = true
};It's like you don't want this.
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There should be no class war. A community that fosters it is not helping.
No war but class war.
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There should be no class war. A community that fosters it is not helping.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]Sure it should not but it sure is needed and does exist whether you engage in it or not.
Who doesn't pay appropriate taxes?
Who helps the community?
Who destroys the climate in the pursuit of profit?
Who denies you healthcare/youth care/eldercare when you need it?
Who engages in wars in which they don't fight the enemy?
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There should be no class war. A community that fosters it is not helping.
There's your problem, by denying the need you are helping the opressors.
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Hmmm, the CIA is against class warfare (in the sense that you are using it here).
Different servers have different communities. You should look at the local timeline of various servers to find a server that perhaps suits you better than lemmy.world
You should also subscribe to communities on various servers to see the kinds of things you enjoy. Like cats or aww. Various birds always seem to have a lot of engagement across the Fediverse.
Class warfare exists whether you engage in it or not. When capital gains is taxed less than salaries for labour, that's class warfare. When the success of a government is measured by the gains of investments like stocks and real estate rather than the economic circumstances of the majority of the people, that's class warfare.
There's a fair history of security services acting as agents provocateur infiltrating socialist and trade union movements to split them apart get evidence or 'intel' to imprison leaders. Certainly in the UK that was a part of their union busting tactics. So it is something to be aware of.
I'm not sure that is what is happening on here though. I'm also not sure if that's what OP was referring to.
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At this stage the whole Lemmy project feels like a CIA experiment, part of some as-of-yet unknown group of experiments / operation given a vague name. All the content is on the extremist-side, enforces attitudes perfect to embolden class wars and young people (no doubt the majority of people here) aren't worldly enough to know the difference. It's full of AI-generated political memes and comments.
Where's the trove of knowledge? The awesome positive hobbies? If it's around, it's all drown out by the manipulative noise.
This could be easily fixed in the coding of Lemmy, but... it hasn't.
I'm becoming very di-senlightened by Lemmy, Let the abuse and downvotes ensue.
I am really confused by the community this was posted in. Is it a genius shitpost or someone not understanding how social media works?
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At this stage the whole Lemmy project feels like a CIA experiment, part of some as-of-yet unknown group of experiments / operation given a vague name. All the content is on the extremist-side, enforces attitudes perfect to embolden class wars and young people (no doubt the majority of people here) aren't worldly enough to know the difference. It's full of AI-generated political memes and comments.
Where's the trove of knowledge? The awesome positive hobbies? If it's around, it's all drown out by the manipulative noise.
This could be easily fixed in the coding of Lemmy, but... it hasn't.
I'm becoming very di-senlightened by Lemmy, Let the abuse and downvotes ensue.
Decent shitpost, cheers
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if (content == political) {
content.censor = true
};It's like you don't want this.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]Shit sorry,
the CIA told me not to point outI forgot that all content already automatically carries thepoliticalflag if it contradicts OP's political biases, and thus all we need to do is check for that and censor accordingly. -
PS the Fediverse in general skews a bit older. It's generally the more tech savvy people that have become exhausted by big tech platforms.
Precisely. I’m a millennial, and this place has a decidedly millennial vibe. Linux nerds, privacy advocates, people seeking an alternative to the slop of mainstream social media. I would imagine people under 25 are a rarity here.
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At this stage the whole Lemmy project feels like a CIA experiment, part of some as-of-yet unknown group of experiments / operation given a vague name. All the content is on the extremist-side, enforces attitudes perfect to embolden class wars and young people (no doubt the majority of people here) aren't worldly enough to know the difference. It's full of AI-generated political memes and comments.
Where's the trove of knowledge? The awesome positive hobbies? If it's around, it's all drown out by the manipulative noise.
This could be easily fixed in the coding of Lemmy, but... it hasn't.
I'm becoming very di-senlightened by Lemmy, Let the abuse and downvotes ensue.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]IMO Lemmy has revealed that people around the world are more left-leaning and class conscious than I thought back when I was on R*ddit.
All the content is on the extremist-side, enforces attitudes perfect to embolden class wars ...
Yes, unironically and openly, I support and advocate for class war against the capitalist class. The capitalist class wages their class war against the working class every single day in every single facet of modern existence. It's well past time we start fighting back as an exercise of our own individual and collective self-defense. Class consciousness should never have been controversial, and it is only controversial because it encourages people to challenge capitalism.
... and young people (no doubt the majority of people here) aren't worldly enough to know the difference.
You don't need any political knowledge to know my positions. I am literally an anarchist, and I have said so loudly and often. Like me, most of these "extremists" are open socialists and communists and will readily tell you their views and ideologies (many of whom I emphatically disagree with from their left, but I somehow suspect you would consider me just as "extreme", namely for challenging the utility and inevitability of capitalism).
Where's the trove of knowledge? The awesome positive hobbies? If it's around, it's all drown out by the manipulative noise.
Yes, it is a shame that capitalism drowns out all our hobbies, all our positive experiences, everything so completely that we need to waste so much bandwidth drowning out the manipulative noise peddled by capitalists on almost every other platform.
It's full of AI-generated political memes and comments.
I don't recommend completely blocking yourself off from politics forever, but if you really need to take a temporary break like everyone deserves, I recommend making an alt account with all political communities and posters blocked. But keep in mind...you might be done with politics, but politics is never done with you. In particular, capitalism is never gonna ask your permission to use and abuse you.
And really, this is a special case of the fact that you need to curate your own feed. Some other social networks do this for you in ways that compromise your privacy and, frankly, brainwash people into accepting the neoliberal monoculture.
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At this stage the whole Lemmy project feels like a CIA experiment, part of some as-of-yet unknown group of experiments / operation given a vague name. All the content is on the extremist-side, enforces attitudes perfect to embolden class wars and young people (no doubt the majority of people here) aren't worldly enough to know the difference. It's full of AI-generated political memes and comments.
Where's the trove of knowledge? The awesome positive hobbies? If it's around, it's all drown out by the manipulative noise.
This could be easily fixed in the coding of Lemmy, but... it hasn't.
I'm becoming very di-senlightened by Lemmy, Let the abuse and downvotes ensue.
Leaves echo chamber ahhh WTF!
I post hobby stuff I'm working on. Everybody seems to care very little. I try to say stop being assholes and people hate for it.
Bias here seems typical for tech geekigarchy. After 2 years on Lemmy – echo chambers are also self selecting and self filtering.
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I am really confused by the community this was posted in. Is it a genius shitpost or someone not understanding how social media works?
This is by far not the first time aswell. I've noticed that there are a lot of people that seem to interpret this community as "a place to post your random shit to".
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At this stage the whole Lemmy project feels like a CIA experiment, part of some as-of-yet unknown group of experiments / operation given a vague name. All the content is on the extremist-side, enforces attitudes perfect to embolden class wars and young people (no doubt the majority of people here) aren't worldly enough to know the difference. It's full of AI-generated political memes and comments.
Where's the trove of knowledge? The awesome positive hobbies? If it's around, it's all drown out by the manipulative noise.
This could be easily fixed in the coding of Lemmy, but... it hasn't.
I'm becoming very di-senlightened by Lemmy, Let the abuse and downvotes ensue.
Stick around, you might learn something for once.
