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Do you believe in reincarnation?

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  • Q [email protected]

    And they found that all this does is create false memories?

    Edit: Oh you meant the hypnosis does. Yeah not sure why he recommended that part before meditation

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    Indeed. So the brain would create memories from context.

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      Indeed. So the brain would create memories from context.

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      And we're 100% on this?

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        And we're 100% on this?

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        I don't think anyone thinking scientifically will guarantee anything forever.

        But according to current state of research, that is how I understood it.

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          What do you mean by causal connection?

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            I did get messed up by some anxiety and have these thoughts rolling through my head so I'll leave it at cosmic horror warning.

            ::: spoiler spoiler
            I'm not religious but I have thoughts about experiencing consciousness and what it is. I say that consciousness is independent of memory because we forget, clearly dependent on our physical body, etc. generally I do say that we don't know consciousness so maybe it can be reconstructed (in the can't rule out the possibility way)

            So I can see scenarios were my conscious could pop into existence without my memories after I die (as I'm writing this I realized that's nothing to fear).

            I am trying to adopt healthier mindset of looking at everything in life as a quest, new things are a call to action, and that it's okay if everything I do amounts to little in x number of years (worked out okay for ozymandias, right?).

            Im probably just rambling because my life has got boring and monotonous along with actual fear of American politics.
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            It doesn’t make sense biologically

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            • C [email protected]

              I felt that way too, but then I watched re zero and that changed my mentally. I watch the anime last year

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              Is it good? Haven’t watched it yet

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              • Q [email protected]

                Don't cherrypick qoutes.

                Regardless he had to say that to give himself an out, there was concern that he'd be judged negatively for even suggesting reincarnation. Something proven by your own hostility.

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                When you see anyone disagreeing with you as hostility, you've clearly lost the thread.

                Stop trying to twist his words in weird ways that benefit your stance, he very literally said we shouldn't believe.

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                  I did get messed up by some anxiety and have these thoughts rolling through my head so I'll leave it at cosmic horror warning.

                  ::: spoiler spoiler
                  I'm not religious but I have thoughts about experiencing consciousness and what it is. I say that consciousness is independent of memory because we forget, clearly dependent on our physical body, etc. generally I do say that we don't know consciousness so maybe it can be reconstructed (in the can't rule out the possibility way)

                  So I can see scenarios were my conscious could pop into existence without my memories after I die (as I'm writing this I realized that's nothing to fear).

                  I am trying to adopt healthier mindset of looking at everything in life as a quest, new things are a call to action, and that it's okay if everything I do amounts to little in x number of years (worked out okay for ozymandias, right?).

                  Im probably just rambling because my life has got boring and monotonous along with actual fear of American politics.
                  :::

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                  The amount of effort people put into saying “Maaaybe. We really don’t know,” is just crazy to me. No, because it’s nonsense.

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                    We live in an infinite universe. As such, it seems hubristic to me to believe that we have, more or less, nature figured out.

                    I don't feel compelled to believe in the soul as some strange sort of object that is continuously reincarnated towards a great purpose. But if we consider consciousness as an energy of its own kind, then it should hold true that it cannot be created or destroyed, only change form. This could mean that the consciousness that resides in the body could move between different life forms like a fluid, freely mixing and melding with others, filling a new vessel as necessary.

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                    You’ll maintain a healthy diet with this much salad.

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                      I did get messed up by some anxiety and have these thoughts rolling through my head so I'll leave it at cosmic horror warning.

                      ::: spoiler spoiler
                      I'm not religious but I have thoughts about experiencing consciousness and what it is. I say that consciousness is independent of memory because we forget, clearly dependent on our physical body, etc. generally I do say that we don't know consciousness so maybe it can be reconstructed (in the can't rule out the possibility way)

                      So I can see scenarios were my conscious could pop into existence without my memories after I die (as I'm writing this I realized that's nothing to fear).

                      I am trying to adopt healthier mindset of looking at everything in life as a quest, new things are a call to action, and that it's okay if everything I do amounts to little in x number of years (worked out okay for ozymandias, right?).

                      Im probably just rambling because my life has got boring and monotonous along with actual fear of American politics.
                      :::

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                      If there is reincarnation and you don't remember a single thing from before, why bother it doesn't matter.

                      If there would be reincarnation where you remembered your previous life, surely someone would have spilled the beans on this by now. I surely would contact any sort of family friends that i had previously.

                      Since both could be possible but 2. hasnt happened and 1 doesnt matter i would give this a no.

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                        I did get messed up by some anxiety and have these thoughts rolling through my head so I'll leave it at cosmic horror warning.

                        ::: spoiler spoiler
                        I'm not religious but I have thoughts about experiencing consciousness and what it is. I say that consciousness is independent of memory because we forget, clearly dependent on our physical body, etc. generally I do say that we don't know consciousness so maybe it can be reconstructed (in the can't rule out the possibility way)

                        So I can see scenarios were my conscious could pop into existence without my memories after I die (as I'm writing this I realized that's nothing to fear).

                        I am trying to adopt healthier mindset of looking at everything in life as a quest, new things are a call to action, and that it's okay if everything I do amounts to little in x number of years (worked out okay for ozymandias, right?).

                        Im probably just rambling because my life has got boring and monotonous along with actual fear of American politics.
                        :::

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                        No. I believe in a relative afterlife (and people who feel confident that no afterlife is some sort of overwhelmingly logical conclusion should probably look closer at trending science and technology).

                        So I believe that what any given person sees after death may be relative to them. For those that hope for reincarnation, I sure hope they get it. It's not my jam but they aren't me.

                        That said, I definitely don't believe that it's occurring locally or that people are remembering actual past lives, etc.

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                          I did get messed up by some anxiety and have these thoughts rolling through my head so I'll leave it at cosmic horror warning.

                          ::: spoiler spoiler
                          I'm not religious but I have thoughts about experiencing consciousness and what it is. I say that consciousness is independent of memory because we forget, clearly dependent on our physical body, etc. generally I do say that we don't know consciousness so maybe it can be reconstructed (in the can't rule out the possibility way)

                          So I can see scenarios were my conscious could pop into existence without my memories after I die (as I'm writing this I realized that's nothing to fear).

                          I am trying to adopt healthier mindset of looking at everything in life as a quest, new things are a call to action, and that it's okay if everything I do amounts to little in x number of years (worked out okay for ozymandias, right?).

                          Im probably just rambling because my life has got boring and monotonous along with actual fear of American politics.
                          :::

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                          I hope reincarnation is true. I want to be reborn. But than again, I fear being reborn in some dystopian future.

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                            I did get messed up by some anxiety and have these thoughts rolling through my head so I'll leave it at cosmic horror warning.

                            ::: spoiler spoiler
                            I'm not religious but I have thoughts about experiencing consciousness and what it is. I say that consciousness is independent of memory because we forget, clearly dependent on our physical body, etc. generally I do say that we don't know consciousness so maybe it can be reconstructed (in the can't rule out the possibility way)

                            So I can see scenarios were my conscious could pop into existence without my memories after I die (as I'm writing this I realized that's nothing to fear).

                            I am trying to adopt healthier mindset of looking at everything in life as a quest, new things are a call to action, and that it's okay if everything I do amounts to little in x number of years (worked out okay for ozymandias, right?).

                            Im probably just rambling because my life has got boring and monotonous along with actual fear of American politics.
                            :::

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                            Anyone who says they know what happens when you die is trying to grift you. No one knows and we all find out one day, no point in dwelling on it.

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                              I have no idea what you said

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                              It means express yourself without a damaging hindrance

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                                You’ll maintain a healthy diet with this much salad.

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                                You doing okay there buddy?

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                                  I did get messed up by some anxiety and have these thoughts rolling through my head so I'll leave it at cosmic horror warning.

                                  ::: spoiler spoiler
                                  I'm not religious but I have thoughts about experiencing consciousness and what it is. I say that consciousness is independent of memory because we forget, clearly dependent on our physical body, etc. generally I do say that we don't know consciousness so maybe it can be reconstructed (in the can't rule out the possibility way)

                                  So I can see scenarios were my conscious could pop into existence without my memories after I die (as I'm writing this I realized that's nothing to fear).

                                  I am trying to adopt healthier mindset of looking at everything in life as a quest, new things are a call to action, and that it's okay if everything I do amounts to little in x number of years (worked out okay for ozymandias, right?).

                                  Im probably just rambling because my life has got boring and monotonous along with actual fear of American politics.
                                  :::

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                                  If it was a choice why would I ever wanna come back to this hell hole ?

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                                    That would imply they don't believe in rebirth. But they do though?

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                                      If it was a choice why would I ever wanna come back to this hell hole ?

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                                      I think this universe sucks, not to ignore human history. Lots of it is empty space apparently cosmic events can wipe you out with next to no warning, your made up of atoms and cells that can die and degrade, and we are stuck to this solar system because space isn't empty it's full of shit thats going to kill you

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                                        If there is reincarnation and you don't remember a single thing from before, why bother it doesn't matter.

                                        If there would be reincarnation where you remembered your previous life, surely someone would have spilled the beans on this by now. I surely would contact any sort of family friends that i had previously.

                                        Since both could be possible but 2. hasnt happened and 1 doesnt matter i would give this a no.

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                                        That's my view too. even if reincarnation existed, it wouldn't matter. If each life has no memory of the others, then each life is effectively a different person altogether, so from the POV of any one of those people, there is effectively no such thing as reincarnation.

                                        Now suppose there's some kind of 'soul' who the lives 'belong to' and will one day remember the lives, again -- so what? They're just memories. Those lives were each a separate person who no longer exists, and never knew the others or the soul.

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                                          That's my view too. even if reincarnation existed, it wouldn't matter. If each life has no memory of the others, then each life is effectively a different person altogether, so from the POV of any one of those people, there is effectively no such thing as reincarnation.

                                          Now suppose there's some kind of 'soul' who the lives 'belong to' and will one day remember the lives, again -- so what? They're just memories. Those lives were each a separate person who no longer exists, and never knew the others or the soul.

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                                          I get that. Have you read The Egg by Andy Weir? If not, there's a Kurzgesagt video that's just that story with animation. I'd suggest it. It touches on this concept and kinda paints a more optimistic picture.

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