Multiple Teslas set on fire in Germany
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no, but they have a right to not be blackbagged and sent to gitmo, which is a right that you don't have in the US.
What you and so many others seem to be failing to grasp is that I don't have a problem with protesting, but burning property isn't protesting it's rioting. People should be in jail for that. Do I like what the US is doing? No. But that doesn't give people the right to vandalize other people's property. And yes I know that a corporation isn't a person, but someone owns that company. So it's still someone's property. Guess who actually pays for that damage? The people that pay premiums. The premiums go up when this is done. Premiums of insurance I mean. Who else pays? Customers. Think that the owners of that company only own that company? Many times they own other companies. If the owner loses to much money in one company they raise the rates at another company. The customer still pays.
The article never states that the vehicles burned are even all owned by a company (the picture shows a car lot but that doesn't mean ALL the vehicles were on a lot). Which means people may not even be burning a vehicle owned by a company but by an individual. That individual might have bought said vehicle before elon went bat shit nutty. The owner of the vehicle probably can't even sell the vehicle. The insurance won't cover all the cost of the vehicle. The vandals have attacked an innocent individual in that case. That just makes the vandal an asshole.
Yet most comments fully support the vandals. Bunch of assholes is all I see.
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Imagine you buy a car and it gets burned down because the owner of the car company turns out to be a Nazi.
I would like Tesla to go bankrupt too but cheering on regular peoples property being destroyed is wrong.
Meh, they have insurance
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The people who would go that far to give him money wouldn't be comfortable putting that sticker on.
Aha...it's true but there might be some influencers who might look the other way.
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That's why people use this sticker
Let's be honest: We knew that Elon was an asshole and totally batshit insane after the thailand caving incident. That was in 2018. Everybody who bought a Tesla after that didn't pay attention
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it could've caught fire on its own, it's a tesla.
you should've known that when you bought the car too, before you knew about the nazism.
Yeah ICE cars catch fire 61x more often than EVs.
Facts are important. We want people to switch to EVs. Spreading falsehoods because it helps your own side short term is wrong.
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Because this is one of the only ways to attack a billionaire.
But you hurt the regular people way more.
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But you hurt the regular people way more.
If they are insured, no.
Insurance premiums will go up on teslas.
Then people will buy less tesla.
Then Musk will get margin called.
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Yeah ICE cars catch fire 61x more often than EVs.
Facts are important. We want people to switch to EVs. Spreading falsehoods because it helps your own side short term is wrong.
no we don't. we want people to switch to public transit
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What you and so many others seem to be failing to grasp is that I don't have a problem with protesting, but burning property isn't protesting it's rioting. People should be in jail for that. Do I like what the US is doing? No. But that doesn't give people the right to vandalize other people's property. And yes I know that a corporation isn't a person, but someone owns that company. So it's still someone's property. Guess who actually pays for that damage? The people that pay premiums. The premiums go up when this is done. Premiums of insurance I mean. Who else pays? Customers. Think that the owners of that company only own that company? Many times they own other companies. If the owner loses to much money in one company they raise the rates at another company. The customer still pays.
The article never states that the vehicles burned are even all owned by a company (the picture shows a car lot but that doesn't mean ALL the vehicles were on a lot). Which means people may not even be burning a vehicle owned by a company but by an individual. That individual might have bought said vehicle before elon went bat shit nutty. The owner of the vehicle probably can't even sell the vehicle. The insurance won't cover all the cost of the vehicle. The vandals have attacked an innocent individual in that case. That just makes the vandal an asshole.
Yet most comments fully support the vandals. Bunch of assholes is all I see.
first of all my comment or the one you first replied to had nothing to do with whether the suspects in question are wrong or even violent. you're the one who seems to failing to grasp that. I don't care if it's a serial killer, they still have rights. there's no crime in the world, not even terrorism, that justifies bypassing human rights.
second of all you're wrong. fuck property. people riot because it's the last refuge of the powerless. so-called peaceful protests don't do shit and never have. history proves time and time again that change only comes with violent protests, the least of which involves burning shit. for even more fundamental change, heads need to be rolling. so right now you better hope burning property brings meaningful change because no one wants this to escalate.
if you disagree, please dust off the pussy hat and go to the streets, see if it works this time.
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If they are insured, no.
Insurance premiums will go up on teslas.
Then people will buy less tesla.
Then Musk will get margin called.
Premiums going up will hurt regular people more than Musk. Hurting your fellow countrymen is such a lefty thing to do...
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If you own a Telsa, sell it. It sucks but Muskrat is actually dismantling decades of institutional organization. He's an threat to our country and when it collapses he'll just fly to the next country while we burn.
Flood the market with used Swasticars that nobody wants to be associated with and nobody will buy the new ones. Money is the only thing they understand.
He's got the president of the u.s. on the front lawn hucking his cars, it's hilarious and sad.
Sell to whom?
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Let's be honest: We knew that Elon was an asshole and totally batshit insane after the thailand caving incident. That was in 2018. Everybody who bought a Tesla after that didn't pay attention
Behold! Someone with 20/20 hindsight!
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If you own a Telsa, sell it.
Realistically, this makes no difference. Tesla has already got the money from the seller. The only person losing is the seller who now sells the car at lower price than they bought it for and have to put in more money to buy a replacement vehicle.
Flood the market with used Swasticars that nobody wants to be associated with and nobody will buy the new ones. Money is the only thing they understand.
The only ones who will buy Teslas now are conservatives and they will buy new 'just to show support for Musk'.
The goal is not to destroy cars, it is to destroy what it represents.
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Sell to whom?
I hear Aquaman is buying em
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Premiums going up will hurt regular people more than Musk. Hurting your fellow countrymen is such a lefty thing to do...
It will only hurt people who continue to own Teslas when they renew their insurance. They are part of the demographic supporting Musk, so fuckem.
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If you own a Telsa, sell it. It sucks but Muskrat is actually dismantling decades of institutional organization. He's an threat to our country and when it collapses he'll just fly to the next country while we burn.
Flood the market with used Swasticars that nobody wants to be associated with and nobody will buy the new ones. Money is the only thing they understand.
He's got the president of the u.s. on the front lawn hucking his cars, it's hilarious and sad.
I don't own one, but when I was considering which EV to buy they were on the list. I could have easily been just another Tesla owner, now getting their car burnt to a crisp or getting spray painted with Nazi symbols.
I am a unpaid union executive. I volunteer my time to groups like a Right-to-Repair advocacy organization. If the shitheads burning cars could get this motivated about these or other issues, we'd be knocking problems over like dominoes. Instead "activism" for a lot of people now means complaining on the internet and destroying the property of workers.
Frankly people need to take that type of activism and fuck right off with it. Do some real work or go home and let the adults figure it out.
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the magamobile… i know it has its issues, but the sad thing is, if you want an electric car as a person who does not care about car-people-things, the magamobile is one of the best options in terms of efficiency. ALSO in terms of used vehicles, you can get teslas so bloody cheap rn and for people who just want to get from A to B with Comfort and ease, you dont have so many other options.
I hadn't even considered that this is causing the used market to drop out. We could be urging people who otherwise couldn't or wouldn't to adopt EVs. Could turn the negative into a positive.
Nope the "activists" say, burn em all.
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It will only hurt people who continue to own Teslas when they renew their insurance. They are part of the demographic supporting Musk, so fuckem.
Yeah conservatives were totally the largest market for EVs before Musk took the mask off, right? You people truly have not spent even a microsecond thinking this through.
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I don't own one, but when I was considering which EV to buy they were on the list. I could have easily been just another Tesla owner, now getting their car burnt to a crisp or getting spray painted with Nazi symbols.
I am a unpaid union executive. I volunteer my time to groups like a Right-to-Repair advocacy organization. If the shitheads burning cars could get this motivated about these or other issues, we'd be knocking problems over like dominoes. Instead "activism" for a lot of people now means complaining on the internet and destroying the property of workers.
Frankly people need to take that type of activism and fuck right off with it. Do some real work or go home and let the adults figure it out.
I do all kinds of work organizing IRL thanks. Do you think the people that set the cars on fire were just online or something? Shitposting is useless, the real ones are taking it offline.
A bit of advice to an alleged Union man? Get some solidarity and stop supporting fascists scab. Support Unions by buying union-made cars, not ones made by a Union busting fascists.
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I do all kinds of work organizing IRL thanks. Do you think the people that set the cars on fire were just online or something? Shitposting is useless, the real ones are taking it offline.
A bit of advice to an alleged Union man? Get some solidarity and stop supporting fascists scab. Support Unions by buying union-made cars, not ones made by a Union busting fascists.
You could petition for adoption of an EV plug that isn't Tesla's. You could ask to have the Tesla supercharger network be declared anti-competitive and force Musk to divest. Bonus points if you can convince people it should be a public good.
Lots of moves could be made. Instead you advocate for bashing the fash by... Burning cars owned by workers? And somehow you fail to see how this is not just morally and logically wrong, it also harms the view of leftists in the eyes of the public?
Are you a real person or do you glow?
