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  • L [email protected]

    I think the same people who run stackoverflow must run a ton of subs on reddit.

    "Your post was removed because it uses "the" too much and doesn't contain enough w's and because the moon is in Pisces and it's Saturday. If you think this was done in error please message the moderators."

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    messages moderator about it, banned from subreddit for no reason given. Or at least that is how i imagine how it would go

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    • hupf@feddit.orgH [email protected]

      INTERCAL's PLEASE Politesse Checking

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      That's hilarious. I do hope it gets evaluated at run time. That way you could have a program that works most of the time but if some rare circumstance caused it to execute commands in a sequence where the correct level of politeness was not maintained it would get the hump and crash

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      • B [email protected]

        ok but real talk, knees are genuinely one of the most marvellous pieces of biomechanical engineering. They can withstand decades of constant movement, can allow extension (with a lot of force) even when bent 180°, can withstand - and move - hundreds of kg per knee (with enough practice) periodically also for decades, and can comfortably remain with your entire body weight resting on them at any angle from 0 to 180° for any length of time. It's amazing that everyone doesn't have constant knee pain or have their knees simply fail altogether.

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        It's just that sometimes they don't respond to input.

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        • R [email protected]

          He still doesn't understand how we got the rock to think

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          You have to etch them with Eldritch potions on the mystical and long-lost island of Ti-wo-ann.

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          • P [email protected]

            Now we're still pasting code from stack overflow we don't understand, we're just getting it from an LLM

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            At least now I don't have to deal with the rudeners.

            I do like the fact that when I ask it a question it actually gives me the answer, and doesn't tell me to refactor my entire code because apparently I'm a bad person.

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            • bleistift2@sopuli.xyzB [email protected]

              multiple people edited my question to change the grammar and take out the thanks and smiley at the end

              Well, the Welcome Tour tells you that SO is about “just questions and answers”. This facilitates finding a question that’s written as concise as possible, checking its answer, and leaving. SO is deliberately not like a forum.

              SE seems too heavily focusing on helping a “generic public” rather than the actual people asking the questions.

              This is just another consequence of not being a forum. Of course SO wants questions to be helpful to as many people as possible. I don’t see how that is a bad thing.

              If you want a laxer approach to handling quality, consider if you’ve ever found useful information on yahoo answers.

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              The big problem is that half the time the answer that you get is that you shouldn't be in the situation you're in so the question doesn't apply.

              Well yeah, but here's the thing, if I ask the question it's because I am in the situation I'm in, and therefore need assistance. So telling me that the situation I'm in is not optimal is literally the least helpful thing one could do.

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              • wfh@lemm.eeW [email protected]

                In my time we didn't paste LLM-generated code we barely understand and hoped it compiled, let alone work. We pasted code from stack overflow we barely understood and hoped it compiled and let alone work, as god intended.

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                You're young. Back in my day, we bought a book called "Advanced Algorithms for C vol. 3", and we manually typed the code from it if it didn't come with a CD.

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                • E [email protected]

                  At least now I don't have to deal with the rudeners.

                  I do like the fact that when I ask it a question it actually gives me the answer, and doesn't tell me to refactor my entire code because apparently I'm a bad person.

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                  Weirdly enough, when someone asked an LLM for an OpenGL grievance for me, first it just recommended to use GLFW or SDL for the task, both of which I didn't want to use (GLFW controller handling🤮), after that they got an answer that just bugged out on most WM.

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                    You're young. Back in my day, we bought a book called "Advanced Algorithms for C vol. 3", and we manually typed the code from it if it didn't come with a CD.

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                    When I was a kid I remember copying entire games in BASIC printed in popular science magazines. They never worked because my dads computer had a slightly different BASIC dialect.

                    Good times.

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                    • wfh@lemm.eeW [email protected]

                      When I was a kid I remember copying entire games in BASIC printed in popular science magazines. They never worked because my dads computer had a slightly different BASIC dialect.

                      Good times.

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                      I remember on the C64 they used to have 'pokes' which were written in assembler.

                      You'd have to manually typing 500 lines of it. Of course, it almost never worked. The times it did work I used to save it to a tape, I think I had about 9 cheats on it 🙂

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                      • M [email protected]

                        Anubis does its thing, shows me cute art, then leaves without elaborating. It's a mostly non-intrusive, individual/community effort to protect people against big tech and abusive scrapers. I usually see it in open source community websites that were getting hammered by LLM scrapers.

                        Cloudflare's is a corporate solution from the company that man-in-the-middles half the internet and makes me click shit every fucking time. I see it whenever I make the mistake of following a stackoverflow link.

                        You're goddamn right my reaction is accordingly different.

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                        Cloudflare’s is a corporate solution from the company that man-in-the-middles half the internet and makes me click shit every fucking time. I see it whenever I make the mistake of following a stackoverflow link.

                        It is also not very useful if you don't use a PC. Every time I look up a Cloudflare-gated site on my iPad, I usually have to jump through a few captchas before it will let me in, if it doesn't decide to be a grump and decide to put you in a sisyphean cycle of captchas, constantly refreshing without end.

                        Or if you use some software. I have citation software that gets stuck in the loop because Elsevier puts their journals behind a Cloudflare wall, and when it pops up the prompt to prove you're not a bot, just refreshes straight into another prompt.

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                          Yes, but did the LLM get it from the answers or the questions?....

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                          Both, of course.

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                          • E [email protected]

                            You have to etch them with Eldritch potions on the mystical and long-lost island of Ti-wo-ann.

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                            And here I lost my Horadric Cube 😞

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                            • kazerniel@lemmy.worldK [email protected]

                              I understand it's not a forum (though tbh I can't remember a welcome tour, but it was more than a decade ago, so could have just forgot), but even with that I just find the whole atmosphere kinda cold and elitist. Not a community that invites participation, like Wikipedia does. But each to our own 🙂

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                              But each to our own 🙂

                              Exactly.

                              And it seems we, on average, decided to part ways with Stack Overflow.

                              I don't know what the best answer is, but I'm not terribly surprised that Stack Overflow didn't turn out to be it.

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                                Anubis does its thing, shows me cute art, then leaves without elaborating. It's a mostly non-intrusive, individual/community effort to protect people against big tech and abusive scrapers. I usually see it in open source community websites that were getting hammered by LLM scrapers.

                                Cloudflare's is a corporate solution from the company that man-in-the-middles half the internet and makes me click shit every fucking time. I see it whenever I make the mistake of following a stackoverflow link.

                                You're goddamn right my reaction is accordingly different.

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                                Cloudflare's is a corporate solution from the company that man-in-the-middles half the internet and makes me click shit every fucking time. I see it whenever I make the mistake of following a stackoverflow link.

                                on SO sites all the difference is a single click. and you have to allow scripts and cookies for both, so no difference there.

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                                • O [email protected]

                                  Been there done that. Closed as duplicate.

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                                  Gotta love finding the exact issue you're having being asked, and closed as duplicate, and what they say it's a duplicate of isn't even the same issue and doesn't apply to you...

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                                  • E [email protected]

                                    Why would you think it would be different

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                                    Because different servers would have different rules and moderators so if one becomes toxic like that you could block the instance and stick to ones that are actually helpful

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                                    • G [email protected]

                                      I remember on the C64 they used to have 'pokes' which were written in assembler.

                                      You'd have to manually typing 500 lines of it. Of course, it almost never worked. The times it did work I used to save it to a tape, I think I had about 9 cheats on it 🙂

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                                      As a teen, on my zx81 I remember typing line after line of hex numbers.

                                      If the rampack didn't wobble and fail and I hadn't missed a line or entered one twice then I'd play something new.

                                      I must have saved the thing somehow, but I can't remember...

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                                      • M [email protected]

                                        They're the same people posting articles saying how bad AI is while everybody else has fun using it

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                                        Nobody cares if you are “playing” with AI. The problem is companies like OpenAI stealing people’s work for training, and stealing their business using that stolen work for profit. Fair use stops at commercial interest and AI is nothing but commercial interest. It’s a layer cake of theft and unfair competition.

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                                          Nobody cares if you are “playing” with AI. The problem is companies like OpenAI stealing people’s work for training, and stealing their business using that stolen work for profit. Fair use stops at commercial interest and AI is nothing but commercial interest. It’s a layer cake of theft and unfair competition.

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                                          Don't care, of all the problems in the world. You're all making shit up to be mad about. Everybody gave their stuff up with or without AI. People were always scraping data and allowing it to be locked awa. Information brokers are not new. They have always sold our data. Nothing has changed.

                                          I'm not bending over backwards to give a shit for people who have slept to the point that we arrived here with these issues, and now that we finally have something cool they're up in arms because they think their stupid Garfield knockoff comic is the core competent to making AI powerfully profitable. I'd all for removing every content creator from the Internet. Scrub the whole fucking thing. They're parasites

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