Mercedes and BMW, eternal rivals on a race once again - this time to the bottom.
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I'm sorry Europeans, but sitting on your vast catalog of drop dead gorgeous classic cars is a crime.
I mean, people remake them and sell them for a fortune why can't they just massage the old bodies and put them over there.
wrote last edited by [email protected]Honest answer, it's health and safety. Old designs aren't necessarily pedestrian impact friendly, and some don't leave a lot of options for crumple zones.
Being a car designer now, with all the limitations must be challenging/frustrating/suck
Edit: that's no excuse for the basking shark looking Merc and the ridiculous attempt at two front teeth on the BMW
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Honest answer, it's health and safety. Old designs aren't necessarily pedestrian impact friendly, and some don't leave a lot of options for crumple zones.
Being a car designer now, with all the limitations must be challenging/frustrating/suck
Edit: that's no excuse for the basking shark looking Merc and the ridiculous attempt at two front teeth on the BMW
They can massage them to fit modern aerodynamic and pedestrian safety standards, though.
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Honest answer, it's health and safety. Old designs aren't necessarily pedestrian impact friendly, and some don't leave a lot of options for crumple zones.
Being a car designer now, with all the limitations must be challenging/frustrating/suck
Edit: that's no excuse for the basking shark looking Merc and the ridiculous attempt at two front teeth on the BMW
wrote last edited by [email protected]Nope its not health and safety, a lot of old cars can be refitted for roll cages and most of them are way lighter than current cars, thus making them need less large crumple zones.
Its not a supply problem since almost every car maker on the planet still has a supply chain for old parts. and since modern manufacturing is so adaptable the cost of retooling the factories is pretty much negligible in the grand scheme of things.
Its not a demand problem bc every fucking person on the planet would buy an old bmw or mercedes over this minimalist slop. Hell old audis or 70's renaults look sexy as hell.
No its a damn mentality problem. They dont want to make old cars since it would be admitting that modern cars are designed like a tweaker on caffeine spat all over the design board. It would be admitting that car design has declined over the past 45 years. It would be admitting that the top brass at these companies are a bunch of useless limp dick baboons who's biggest contributions to the company are limiting themselves one line of crack a day.
Thats the reason why, that there is no good reason why not.
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The BMW is the upcoming BEV iX3. The first vehicle to be built on the Neue Klasse chassis. It’s a big leap forward in BEV tech over anything currently offered by BMW. Has 800 km range and 800V architecture.
It's horrific.
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The BMW is the upcoming BEV iX3. The first vehicle to be built on the Neue Klasse chassis. It’s a big leap forward in BEV tech over anything currently offered by BMW. Has 800 km range and 800V architecture.
"One of the most substantial updates to the 2026 Mercedes-Benz S-Class is the evolution of its SAE Level 3 autonomous driving system, Drive Pilot. Previously capped at 37 mph (60 km/h), Drive Pilot now operates at speeds of up to 59 mph (95 km/h) on highways—though only in Germany for now. Mercedes clarified that this increase is pending regulatory approval in the U.S., where the system remains limited to 37 mph. Read more > https://mercedes-world.com/s-class/mercedes-s-class-comes-with-major-autonomous-driving-update"
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The merc would look okay with a black grille. Not stunning, but okay. I do like the mini merc logos in the lights.
The BMW just needs to start over.
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Douchemobiles
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They can massage them to fit modern aerodynamic and pedestrian safety standards, though.
See the new Renault 4 and 5
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You know they do this on purpose, and you just showed exactly why it works. They make the design controversial so people talk and argue about it. They thank you for the free advertising.
I assume anyone with one of those BMWs with the giant grilles is a psychopath.
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That's literally Jaguar's business approach now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzGlTULmheI
I'm not sure others are necessarily doing that on purpose yet, but you are not a conspiracist here, lol.
Jaguar had no choice. I was working for one of their suppliers until a couple of years ago and their sales figures were not good. Nobody was buying their saloon cars anymore, and their SUVs were selling well but were essentially eating into Land Rover's market share, so they had to do something different. It is easier to sell low numbers of outrageously expensive cars than to mass produce cheaper ones so that's what they're gonna do.
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Jaguar had no choice. I was working for one of their suppliers until a couple of years ago and their sales figures were not good. Nobody was buying their saloon cars anymore, and their SUVs were selling well but were essentially eating into Land Rover's market share, so they had to do something different. It is easier to sell low numbers of outrageously expensive cars than to mass produce cheaper ones so that's what they're gonna do.
That makes sense, but is weird to me, as their smallest sedan was really good. And cheap, compared to BMW and Mercedes! The others were too.
It feels like a reputation/trendiness problem. And that doesn’t exactly bode well for the outrageously expensive car market.
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The merc would look okay with a black grille. Not stunning, but okay. I do like the mini merc logos in the lights.
The BMW just needs to start over.
I always think this about BMWs and then they somehow manage to grow on me. It's like they're released 2 years too early or something.
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See the new Renault 4 and 5
Renault 4 and 5
Those look good!
It'd be awesome if they make a Renault 5 rally-inspired version, with a little more suspension travel.
Peugot should be next with the 205:
It's like a perfect mix of small, practical, understated, until you squint and realize it's fast too.
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The merc would look okay with a black grille. Not stunning, but okay. I do like the mini merc logos in the lights.
The BMW just needs to start over.
BMW ass looks nice, combine it with the MB front grille in black and I won't be too mad.
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Honest answer, it's health and safety. Old designs aren't necessarily pedestrian impact friendly, and some don't leave a lot of options for crumple zones.
Being a car designer now, with all the limitations must be challenging/frustrating/suck
Edit: that's no excuse for the basking shark looking Merc and the ridiculous attempt at two front teeth on the BMW
wrote last edited by [email protected]Old designs aren’t necessarily pedestrian impact friendly, and some don’t leave a lot of options for crumple zones.
Depends. 30 year old designs are probably more pedestrian-friendly than SUVs. The shapes were certainly better for that, and I assume they already invented crumple zones in 1995.
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Right one's got a hitler stache and very clenched ass cheeks
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Nope its not health and safety, a lot of old cars can be refitted for roll cages and most of them are way lighter than current cars, thus making them need less large crumple zones.
Its not a supply problem since almost every car maker on the planet still has a supply chain for old parts. and since modern manufacturing is so adaptable the cost of retooling the factories is pretty much negligible in the grand scheme of things.
Its not a demand problem bc every fucking person on the planet would buy an old bmw or mercedes over this minimalist slop. Hell old audis or 70's renaults look sexy as hell.
No its a damn mentality problem. They dont want to make old cars since it would be admitting that modern cars are designed like a tweaker on caffeine spat all over the design board. It would be admitting that car design has declined over the past 45 years. It would be admitting that the top brass at these companies are a bunch of useless limp dick baboons who's biggest contributions to the company are limiting themselves one line of crack a day.
Thats the reason why, that there is no good reason why not.
I agree in the aesthetics department absolutely.
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Renault 4 and 5
Those look good!
It'd be awesome if they make a Renault 5 rally-inspired version, with a little more suspension travel.
Peugot should be next with the 205:
It's like a perfect mix of small, practical, understated, until you squint and realize it's fast too.
wrote last edited by [email protected]They did make a rally inspired version! Although I think it's more racey than longer suspension.
That Peugeot would be brilliant. I want more hot hatch electric cars. Instead of all these fucking SUV mimics.
