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    Being fired from your job over things you said has nothing to do with the right to free speech. That right means the government won't punish you. It does not stop anyone else from punishing you.

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    Thank you! Seems like very few people understand the concept of free speech.

    It doesn't mean you can say whatever you want with no consequences, which is seeming what a lot of people believe

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    • scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.techS [email protected]

      It's not a screenshot, reddit changes their images so if you try the old right click save as they can tell you aren't in their app and add the frame around it for free advertising. If things get embedded then they are still getting their recognition. Not a bad idea for Lemmy tbh...

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      Voyager has an option to do just that. The Voyager watermark is also optional.

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      • T [email protected]

        Being fired from your job over things you said has nothing to do with the right to free speech. That right means the government won't punish you. It does not stop anyone else from punishing you.

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        What if the government is putting pressure on the organization.

        Then it becomes a free speech issue.

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        • T [email protected]

          Being fired from your job over things you said has nothing to do with the right to free speech. That right means the government won't punish you. It does not stop anyone else from punishing you.

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          It's just that only one side gets punished for it.

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          • obsidianfoxxy7870@lemmy.blahaj.zoneO [email protected]

            But you can easily make the argument MSNBC is suppressing there own "journalists" speech to not face backlash from the government. Just because the government isn't directly coming after an individual doesn't mean that they aren't at least attempting to suppress speech.

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            We've plenty of examples of Trump ignoring outlets he doesn't favor. And I wouldn't be surprised if he's outright banned some from attending press events.

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            • T [email protected]

              Being fired from your job over things you said has nothing to do with the right to free speech. That right means the government won't punish you. It does not stop anyone else from punishing you.

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              Unless you think we were endowed by our Creator with certain unalienable Rights.

              In which case the law is only there to enforce what we already own. And the concept of "Free Speech" goes past just laws.

              Yes, some people misunderstand it. And others are too quick to "correct" them, even when their target is off.

              Nobody is saying firing him was illegal.

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                Edit: Guess who won't face any accountability.

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                Yah but just release the list

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                • T [email protected]

                  Edit: Guess who won't face any accountability.

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                  Paul Pelosi so deserved that shit though.

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                    Yeah, because only one side cares about language and the words we use. The other side is a bunch of disengenous fuck bags with zero beliefs outside of economics

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                    Conservative economics are not actually good economics. I hate that even liberals like to concede to the “economics” brand that conservatives talk about.

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                    • cruxifux@feddit.nlC [email protected]

                      Paul Pelosi so deserved that shit though.

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                      For what?

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                      • A [email protected]

                        Thank you! Seems like very few people understand the concept of free speech.

                        It doesn't mean you can say whatever you want with no consequences, which is seeming what a lot of people believe

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                        No, you are conflating the first amendment, a limited protection of free speech, with free speech itself.

                        It is very much a violation of free speech, its just not illegal. It still is immoral.

                        EDIT: fixed second amendment to first amendment

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                          Edit: Guess who won't face any accountability.

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                          Yes

                          But,

                          Fuck Reddit and Fuck Spez.

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                          • cruxifux@feddit.nlC [email protected]

                            Conservative economics are not actually good economics. I hate that even liberals like to concede to the “economics” brand that conservatives talk about.

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                            Selling off state assets and cutting taxes for the rich isn't really good economics. Its selling the future of your children to the future trillionaires.

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                              Слава Україні, Cлава Палестині.

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                              I sure wouldn't say no if they got rid of Stephen Crowder, since he's the one in this meme.

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                              • medicpigbabysaver@lemmy.worldM [email protected]

                                Yes

                                But,

                                Fuck Reddit and Fuck Spez.

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                                Let it go dude. We are here now you don’t need to keep talking about your ex.

                                It’s virtue signalling at best as the overwhelming majority here agree with you. So what do you have to gain by saying this? You’re literally preaching to the converted.

                                Surely this isn’t your whole identity.

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                                • T [email protected]

                                  Edit: Guess who won't face any accountability.

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                                  That's basically the playbook.

                                  The right cries free speech, but demands everyone else's free speech be removed.

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                                    Freedom of speech is words that they will bend. Metallica taught me that in 1988.

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                                    • cruxifux@feddit.nlC [email protected]

                                      Paul Pelosi so deserved that shit though.

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                                      I guess so did Charlie

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                                      • semi_hemi_demigod@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

                                        It’s not like democratic presidents do shit about it

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                                        But, they shouldn't do shit about it? The president shouldn't be penalizing the media for saying things he didn't like.

                                        I'm not complaining that the Democrat presidents let the media act like assholes, I complain that this administration tries to control the media and the media goes for it.

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                                          Thank you! Seems like very few people understand the concept of free speech.

                                          It doesn't mean you can say whatever you want with no consequences, which is seeming what a lot of people believe

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                                          Problem is there's a big undertone of the administration penalizing news organizations that day things that are unwelcome. Interfering with their business dealings, limiting their access to information they need to provide coverage, bending things a bit to help out "news" outlets that are treating him well.

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