Sam Altman said startups with only $10 million were 'totally hopeless' competing with OpenAI, DeepSeek's disruption says otherwise

[alphane_moon@lemmy.world]

Nevertheless, like the funding-hungry CEO he is, Altman quickly turned the thread around to OpenAI promising jam tomorrow, with the execution of the firm's roadmap, amazing next-gen AI models, and "bringing you all AGI and beyond."

AGI and beyond?

[nightwatch_admin@feddit.nl]

Artificial General Intelligence, the pipedream of a technological intelligence that is not producing a single thing but generally capable, like a human.

[alphane_moon@lemmy.world]

I get it. I just didn't know that they are already using "beyond AGI" in their grifting copytext.

[floofloof@lemmy.ca]

The fact that Microsoft and OpenAI define Artificial General Intelligence in terms of profit suggests they're not confident about achieving the real thing:

The two companies reportedly signed an agreement last year stating OpenAI has only achieved AGI when it develops AI systems that can generate at least $100 billion in profits. (Source)

Given this definition, when they say they'll achieve AGI and beyond, they simply mean they'll achieve more than $100 billion in profit. It says nothing about what they expect to achieve technically.

[shoulderoforion@fedia.io]

I mean I get the DeepSeek launch exposes what NVIDIA and OPENAI have been pushing as the only roadmap to AI as incorrect, but doesn't DeepSeek's ability to harness less lower quality processors thereby allow companies like NVIDIA and OPENAI to reconfigure expanding their infrastructure's abilities to push even further faster? Not sure why the selloff occurred, it's like someone got a PC to post quicker with a x286, and everybody said hey those x386 sure do look nice, but we're gonna fool around with these instead.

[blacklazor@fedia.io]

IMO they're way too much fixated on making a single model AGI.

Some people tried to combine multiple specialized models (voice recognition + image recognition + LLM, + controls + voice synthesis) to get quite compelling results.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Fa3_rH4NcQ

[cygnus@lemmy.ca]

Well, it does make sense in that the time during which we have AGI would be pretty short because AGI would soon go beyond human-level intelligence. With that said, LLMs are certainly not going to get there, assuming AGI is even possible at all.

[bishma@discuss.tchncs.de]

Yeah, that started a week or two ago. Altman dropped the AGI promise too soon now he's having to become a sci-fi author to keep the con cooking.

[neonachtwaechter@lemmy.world]

Does the elephant call the ant hopeless?

One of them is threatened with extinction.

[magic_lobster_party@fedia.io]

The greatest irony would be if OpenAI was killed by an open AI

[nightwatch_admin@feddit.nl]

Ah ok, yeah the “beyond” thing us likely pulled straight out of the book I mentioned in my edit.

[dembosain@midwest.social]

If you throw billions of dollars at a problem, you will always get the most expensive solution.

[mspenguinette@lemmy.world]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superintelligence#Feasibility_of_artificial_superintelligence

Artificial Superintelligence is a term that is getting banded about nowadays

[robottoaster@mander.xyz]

DeepSeek: "no u"

[phdepressed@sh.itjust.works]

We're never getting AGI from any current or planned LLM and ML frameworks.

These LLMs and ML programs are above human intelligence but only within a limited framework.

[pringles@lemm.ee]

Sam Altman is full of shit? Nooooooooooo

[zerocool@slrpnk.net]

now he's having to become a sci-fi author to keep the con cooking.

Dude thinks he’s Asimov but anyone paying attention can see he’s just an L Ron Hubbard.

[zerocool@slrpnk.net]

Well that’s a pretty fucking ridiculous definition lol.

[hootinnhollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com]

The amount of people spamming ‘deepeek’ on YouTube comments and live streams is insane

[tsesejuer@lemmy.world]

what a joke. can't wait for the shift and these parasites to go back underground