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Google Chrome disables uBlock Origin for some in Manifest v3 rollout

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  • L [email protected]

    go to brave, chrome has been pretty anti-adblock for a while. chromium might have a problem since it uses chrome store for extensions.

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    Brave has investments from A16Z, a VC fund that has been involved in multiple pump and dumps and shoes founders are fundamentally opposed to democracy and human rights.

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    • C [email protected]

      What issues do people even have with firefox? Its a browser, it seems fast enough. Isn't that all most people need from a browser

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      Some js is a bit slower. I typically use chrome for self hosted apps, jupyter etc.

      I think wasm performance is actually better in Firefox though.

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      • F [email protected]

        I very much dislike Mozilla's direction over the last decade. They're introducing user-hostile features that subtly break normal browsing experience, even when disabled[0]. Not like Google is better, but I'm also trying to get away from Mozilla.

        [0] On Firefox Mobile, there's a "feature" which makes the address bar auto-complete domains of companies paying Mozilla. I noticed this with Netflix - I never visit, but when I start writing a URL with n, roughly every 10th time Netflix was suggested. You can disable this feature, but this doesn't actually disable it. The address bar no longer auto-completes with Netflix, instead it just doesn't autocomplete! So 9/10 times I can write n and press Enter, but 1/10 times I press n and search for the letter n.

        Mozilla doesn't care whether they break features, as long as they can make more money. I strongly dislike this approach by the supposedly "good" browser manufacturer.

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        Also, I don't think one can export bookmarks from Android Firefox either.

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        • T [email protected]

          Download fennec it's the fork of ff mobile with less of the cruft.

          I don't know if it has fixed that specific problem, but I can't recall seeing it

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          See also Mull, No 120hz though.

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          • L [email protected]

            Mainly that Google intentionally makes its sites (like YouTube or Google Docs) slower and less useable when they detect you're using Firefox, and/or ad blockers (which you need Firefox to use, so same difference).

            It's mostly fixable with add-ons and userscripts (and eventually, one hopes, with an antitrust lawsuit), but it's still a hassle.

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            how do I find out more about this and what scripts do I need to make the sites faster again on Firefox

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              See also Mull, No 120hz though.

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              Mull was part of the DIvestOS project, which has recently been discontinued.

              For a similarly strengthened fork, I've been using IronFox after seeing it recommended on Lemmy.

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              • P [email protected]

                99% if browsers are just skinned Chrome.

                Yup. Hence, the reason I originally suggested to use Firefox, only because it's not built on Chromium.

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                Hence, the reason I originally suggested to use Firefox

                Just FYI, the word "hence" literally means "for this reason". So you just said "for this reason the reason" lol.

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                  Hence, the reason I originally suggested to use Firefox

                  Just FYI, the word "hence" literally means "for this reason". So you just said "for this reason the reason" lol.

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                  Chill dude, I’m just going to the ATM machine to put in my PIN number to take out some money. 🤙

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                  • gi1242@lemmy.worldG [email protected]

                    how do I find out more about this and what scripts do I need to make the sites faster again on Firefox

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                    https://www.tomshardware.com/news/youtube-responds-to-delayed-loading-in-rival-browser-complaints, for instance.

                    Or https://www.zdnet.com/article/former-mozilla-exec-google-has-sabotaged-firefox-for-years/, for an older one.

                    As for how to fix it, Mozilla tend to do a pretty good job of eventually working around Google's bullshit, so keeping the browser updated is a good first step.

                    Since Google tends to roll this stuff out regionally and doing A/B testing, though, the best way is to identify what specific handicap they're hassling you with (which specific features don't work or don't work right, when they work properly on chrome), and look for an updated add on or userscript to fix that particular issue.

                    Or you can just look for a generic YouTube or Google Docs "enhancer" add on and hope it fixes the issue without making the whole user experience too different from what you're used to.

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                      In Australia it won't save card details. And it can't natively create app shortcuts for things like Gmail, keep, whatsapp etc.

                      I put up with it but it's a pain compared to chrome and edge.

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                      You could probably convince a third-party password storage program to store and auto-type details like that. Preferably one that doesn't need internet access to work.

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                      • T [email protected]

                        No, it's still 100% owned and 100% controlled by Google.

                        The Linux Foundation is just making it easier for people outside of Google to submit work to it.

                        Cynically, you could say that Google is just trying to get free contributions while retaining all the control. Optimistically you could say this is the first step in Google giving up control of Chromium in the far future, although currently they've given zero verbal or written indicators that they plan to do that.

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                        damn that sucks.

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                          Chrome? A browser that's easily replaceable with any other browser? Huh... Didn't see that one coming.

                          /S

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                          • kate@lemmy.uhhoh.comK [email protected]

                            i like waterfox https://www.waterfox.net/

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                            just a quick gpt comparison for people wondering

                            The fundamental differences between Firefox and Waterfox are as follows:

                            1. Philosophy & Development

                            Firefox is developed by Mozilla and follows a mainstream development cycle with frequent updates, strong security policies, and telemetry (data collection).

                            Waterfox is a fork of Firefox designed for privacy-conscious users, removing telemetry and data collection while maintaining compatibility with legacy Firefox features.

                            1. Privacy & Telemetry

                            Firefox collects telemetry by default, though users can disable it.

                            Waterfox removes Mozilla's telemetry entirely and disables other tracking features by default.

                            1. Extension Support

                            Firefox only supports modern WebExtensions, dropping support for older XUL/XPCOM extensions since Firefox Quantum (version 57).

                            Waterfox retains support for legacy extensions, making it a preferred choice for users who rely on older add-ons.

                            1. Update Frequency

                            Firefox follows a rapid release schedule, often updating every 4-6 weeks.

                            Waterfox updates more slowly, incorporating Firefox’s latest security patches but lagging behind in feature adoption.

                            1. Performance & Resource Usage

                            Firefox is optimized for modern hardware and multi-core processing, often outperforming forks in speed and efficiency.

                            Waterfox may use more memory due to its legacy support but offers some performance tweaks.

                            1. Default Services & Features

                            Firefox integrates with Mozilla services like Pocket, Sync, and its VPN.

                            Waterfox removes these integrations to minimize data-sharing concerns.

                            In summary, Firefox is better for users who want the latest security, performance, and mainstream web compatibility, while Waterfox is ideal for those prioritizing privacy and legacy extension support.

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                              GNOME Web if on Linux

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                              This comment made me look into if KDE has one and apparently they do it even has built in ad blocking.

                              Off to compile for 3 hours. /j

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                                This comment made me look into if KDE has one and apparently they do it even has built in ad blocking.

                                Off to compile for 3 hours. /j

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                                Is that Falkon? I'd use it if it could integrate with bitwarden.

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                                  I'm one of those complaining about the UI. Used the TabMixPlus extension to adjust the UI to my liking. FF killed it. So, I started customizing the UI CSS. Every few versions, Mozilla changed the browser enough to invalidate my changes. After a while, I got tired of thiz and switched to Vivaldi, which is Chromium based.

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                                  • P [email protected]

                                    Firefox-based https://zen-browser.app/ if you want to get fancy

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                                    I've liked this one lately.

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                                    • P [email protected]

                                      You could probably convince a third-party password storage program to store and auto-type details like that. Preferably one that doesn't need internet access to work.

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                                      KeePass allows offline password management, though I am not sure if it supports card/ID autofill.

                                      Bitwarden is mainly online only, but does support card/ID autofill and allows users to self-host their data if desired.

                                      Not overly familiar with other password managers, but it would not surprise me if one of them out there has the best of both worlds.

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                                      • T [email protected]

                                        Which one are you using? I was looking at ironfox

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                                        Fennec right now, switched before Ironfox was out and now switching would be painful as there is no export, so all manual...

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                                        • L [email protected]

                                          https://www.tomshardware.com/news/youtube-responds-to-delayed-loading-in-rival-browser-complaints, for instance.

                                          Or https://www.zdnet.com/article/former-mozilla-exec-google-has-sabotaged-firefox-for-years/, for an older one.

                                          As for how to fix it, Mozilla tend to do a pretty good job of eventually working around Google's bullshit, so keeping the browser updated is a good first step.

                                          Since Google tends to roll this stuff out regionally and doing A/B testing, though, the best way is to identify what specific handicap they're hassling you with (which specific features don't work or don't work right, when they work properly on chrome), and look for an updated add on or userscript to fix that particular issue.

                                          Or you can just look for a generic YouTube or Google Docs "enhancer" add on and hope it fixes the issue without making the whole user experience too different from what you're used to.

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                                          thanks. I keep Firefox updated. the fact that changing the user agent gets the delay is pretty damning evidence

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