Self-Driving Teslas Are Fatally Striking Motorcyclists More Than Any Other Brand: New Analysis
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For what it's worth, it really isn't clear if this is FSD or AP based on the constant mention of self driving even when it's older collisions when it would definitely been AP.
So these may all be AP, or one or two might be FSD, it's unclear.
Every Tesla has AP as well, so the likelihood of that being the case is higher.
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This is another reason I’ll never drive a motorcycle. Fuck that shit.
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They don't even do that.
They can suggest what the car should do, but they aren't actually doing it. The car is in complete control.
Its a nuanced difference, but it is a difference. A Waymo employee never takes control or operates the vehicle.
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Interesting! I did not know that - I assumed the teleoperators took direct control, but that makes much more sense for latency reasons (among others)
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It's like smoking: if you haven't started, don't XD
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I always just assumed it was their way to ensure the vehicle was really autonomous. If you have someone remotely driving it, you could argue it isn't actually an AV. Your latency idea makes a lot of sense as well though. Imagine taking over and causing an accident due to latency? This way even if the operator gives a bad suggestion, it was the car that ultimately did it.
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Unless it's a higher rate than human drivers per mile or hours driven I do not care. Article doesn't have those stats so it's clickbait as far as I'm concerned
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The fact that the other self driving brands logged zero motorcyclist fatalities means the technology exists to prevent more deaths. Tesla has chosen to allow more people to die in order to reduce cost. The families of those five dead motorcyclists certainly care.
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I'm not going to lie, I almost had a stroke writing it...
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Thanks, 'Satan.
Do you know the number of miles driven by Tesla's self-driving tech? Because I don't, Tesla won't say, they're a remarkably non-transparent company where their tech is concerned. Near as I can tell, nobody does (other than folks locked up tight with NDAs). If the ratio of accidents-per-mile-driven looked good, you know as a flat fact that Elon would be Tweeting all about it.
Sorry you didn't find the death of 5 Americans newsworthy. I'll try harder for the next one.
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I upvoted every comment in this sub-thread shitshow and hated all of it.
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Yer welcome!
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That's not good though, right? "We have the technology to save lives, it works on all of our cars, and we have the ability to push it to every car in the fleet. But these people haven't paid extra for it, so..."
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As someone who likes the open sky feeling, this is why I drive a convertible instead.
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In this case, does it matter? Both are supposed to follow a vehicle at a safe distance
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the cybertruck is sharp enough to cut a deer in half, surely a biker is just as vulnerable.
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they originally had lidar, or radar, but musk had them disabled in the older models.
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Same goes for the other vehicles. They didn’t even try to cover miles driven and it’s quite likely Tesla has far more miles of self-driving than anyone else.
I’d even go so far as to speculate the zero accidents of other self-driving vehicles could just be zero information because we don’t have enough information to call it zero
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I wonder if a state court judge could mandate its use as unsafe?
