Video Shows Aid Workers Killed in Gaza Under Gunfire Barrage, With Ambulance Lights On
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What are you talking about? This is a comment in relation to an event that doesn't have Christianity tied to it as a primary religion, and throughout world history it has been well established that religion in general will be used by those in power to accomplish their goals. sometimes those people are willing to kill in the name of said goals or beliefs.
Oh yeah fair enough, recently they use Judaism too.
and throughout world history it has been well established that religion in general will be used by those in power to accomplish their goals. sometimes those people are willing to kill in the name of said goals or beliefs.
Yeah but "Religion as a concept and religious states are nothing short of fascism"? "A way to suppress and mass murder anyone and anything that doesn't please the Führer"? Setting aside the ridiculousness of this take in and of itself, it's incredibly reductive. What's the difference between the Abbasid Caliphate, the Holy Roman Empire and the French Empire? Well it doesn't matter because they're all nothing short of literally fascist!
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Oh yeah fair enough, recently they use Judaism too.
and throughout world history it has been well established that religion in general will be used by those in power to accomplish their goals. sometimes those people are willing to kill in the name of said goals or beliefs.
Yeah but "Religion as a concept and religious states are nothing short of fascism"? "A way to suppress and mass murder anyone and anything that doesn't please the Führer"? Setting aside the ridiculousness of this take in and of itself, it's incredibly reductive. What's the difference between the Abbasid Caliphate, the Holy Roman Empire and the French Empire? Well it doesn't matter because they're all nothing short of literally fascist!
ah sure, fair point. i kind of glossed over that lol. yeah.. i wouldn't necessarily agree with that assessment if its meant to be a genuine statement (maybe it's an exaggeration born out of frustration?) but i can empathize with how the commenter arrived to that conclusion. i can follow the logic as an atheist myself who happens to be somewhat of an antitheist. however, i think it's ignorant of anyone to say religion cannot be a source of good for a community or individual. religion is complicated, it isn't a homogenous group of thinkers. you cannot have all concepts of it share one universal tenant, i.e. fascism, because there are hundreds of thousands of religions and many do not know about each other or the cultures around them. how could they all be fascist?
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A video, discovered on the cellphone of a paramedic who was found along with 14 other aid workers in a mass grave in Gaza in late March, shows that the ambulances and fire truck that they were traveling in were clearly marked and had their emergency signal lights on when Israeli troops hit them with a barrage of gunfire.
At first a crime, then doubling down on the crime and making it a massacre, then destroying evidence and lying to everyone about the circumstances...
...I do wonder if there's something else the IDF needs to accomplish, for some countries to reconsider their support to Israel.
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A video, discovered on the cellphone of a paramedic who was found along with 14 other aid workers in a mass grave in Gaza in late March, shows that the ambulances and fire truck that they were traveling in were clearly marked and had their emergency signal lights on when Israeli troops hit them with a barrage of gunfire.
A colleague lost his brother with this convoy. The path / convoy was shared with the israelis too. They were executed and the vehicles completely destroyed.
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I don't like cringy atheist but he's right. Having a state religion makes you an ethnostate who threat people differently according to what one believe in.
That's not what an ethnostate is, but either way that's not the point. Treating people differently according to what they believe in isn't "nothing short of fascism" and "a way to suppress and mass murder anyone and anything that doesn't please the Führer(s)". Having legal discrimination doesn't make a state fascist, because that's literally not what fascism is. It's not even a useful way to analyze the behavior of states today or historically.
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That's not what an ethnostate is, but either way that's not the point. Treating people differently according to what they believe in isn't "nothing short of fascism" and "a way to suppress and mass murder anyone and anything that doesn't please the Führer(s)". Having legal discrimination doesn't make a state fascist, because that's literally not what fascism is. It's not even a useful way to analyze the behavior of states today or historically.
You: appartheid is cool actually.
It is litterally what fascism is. A strongman leader protecting the in group.
https://academic.oup.com/book/742/chapter-abstract/135399669
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A video, discovered on the cellphone of a paramedic who was found along with 14 other aid workers in a mass grave in Gaza in late March, shows that the ambulances and fire truck that they were traveling in were clearly marked and had their emergency signal lights on when Israeli troops hit them with a barrage of gunfire.
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A colleague lost his brother with this convoy. The path / convoy was shared with the israelis too. They were executed and the vehicles completely destroyed.
Same as the Hind Rajab case (and countless others). More than a year on Israel is still 'investigating'.
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You: appartheid is cool actually.
It is litterally what fascism is. A strongman leader protecting the in group.
https://academic.oup.com/book/742/chapter-abstract/135399669
You: appartheid is cool actually
There are bad things other than fascism.
A strongman leader protecting the in group.
The fuck? No that's not what fascism is. I mean even if it was that's not what most religion-based states now or throughout history are, but even if it was that's literally not what fascism is. The central tenet of fascism is worship of the state and active, escalating persecution of an outgroup to persuade an ingroup to willingly give up their freedom. Fascism, unlike most other state ideologies, does not seek equilibrium; it is always starved for an Enemy to exploit and persecute in increasingly harmful ways to satisfy the ingroup, which is why it inevitably collapses. This dynamic is core to fascism as a concept, and noticeably absent from most states throughout history—religious or otherwise—because running full speed ahead towards collapse just isn't a smart way to set up a state.
To repeat: You said that fascism is a strongman leader protecting the ingroup, but that's not true; fascism requires the strongman leader to go on the offensive in order to chase a made up vision of greatness for the ingroup and keep that up permanently.
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I don't like cringy atheist but he's right. Having a state religion makes you an ethnostate who threat people differently according to what one believe in.
You're thinking of a theocracy.
But the UK has a state religion, the Church of England, but they're neither a theocracy nor an ethnostate.
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No points for guessing which party Bibi belongs to, and which currently holds power.
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You: appartheid is cool actually
There are bad things other than fascism.
A strongman leader protecting the in group.
The fuck? No that's not what fascism is. I mean even if it was that's not what most religion-based states now or throughout history are, but even if it was that's literally not what fascism is. The central tenet of fascism is worship of the state and active, escalating persecution of an outgroup to persuade an ingroup to willingly give up their freedom. Fascism, unlike most other state ideologies, does not seek equilibrium; it is always starved for an Enemy to exploit and persecute in increasingly harmful ways to satisfy the ingroup, which is why it inevitably collapses. This dynamic is core to fascism as a concept, and noticeably absent from most states throughout history—religious or otherwise—because running full speed ahead towards collapse just isn't a smart way to set up a state.
To repeat: You said that fascism is a strongman leader protecting the ingroup, but that's not true; fascism requires the strongman leader to go on the offensive in order to chase a made up vision of greatness for the ingroup and keep that up permanently.
and active, escalating persecution of an outgroup to persuade an ingroup to willingly give up their freedom.
... and this doesn't apply to Israel?
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Of all countries on this earth, Israel is without doubt the nastiest, most cruel, least human, most bigoted, worst possible country of them all.
The people who have chosen to move to Israel as outsiders are IMO just at responsible for any death of innocent children. Are you an American "Jew"? Well good for you. now fucking stay the fuck where you belong instead of terrorizing random families thousands of miles away under the excuse that you own their house or whatever fucking messed up crap you can come up with.
if you're a Jew, that's a you problem. Doesn't grant you any special rights. If you insist that it does, then we can't ever be friends, and you will forever be avum of earth to me. Same goes for any religion or sect out there used as an excuse to behave like a monster.There are plenty of anti-Israeli Jews. Don't paint us all with the same brush.
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A video, discovered on the cellphone of a paramedic who was found along with 14 other aid workers in a mass grave in Gaza in late March, shows that the ambulances and fire truck that they were traveling in were clearly marked and had their emergency signal lights on when Israeli troops hit them with a barrage of gunfire.
On a similar article, a lot of people on reddit were saying that they could be terrorist on disguise, therefore is on to kill them (attempt to) ask, and that's all good as per Geneva convention.
My reply was deleted, my account banned and my will to stay on that platforms eliminated.
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There are plenty of anti-Israeli Jews. Don't paint us all with the same brush.
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On a similar article, a lot of people on reddit were saying that they could be terrorist on disguise, therefore is on to kill them (attempt to) ask, and that's all good as per Geneva convention.
My reply was deleted, my account banned and my will to stay on that platforms eliminated.
reddit is absolutely unusable.
I got banned for similar behavior, but I still lurk there sometimes. Recently I read an upvoted comment along the lines of: "I would rather have the Nazi for government than live with these hamas supporters and wokists."
There are hundreds of other examples of how biased toward fascism this platform has become. From my understanding, many moderators of large subreddits (e.g., r/worldnews, r/mapporn, r/news, r/geopolitics) have been purged and replaced with state-affiliated actors like literal IOF soldiers.
ʕ ͡° ʖ̯ ͡°ʔ u/maxwellhill
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On a similar article, a lot of people on reddit were saying that they could be terrorist on disguise, therefore is on to kill them (attempt to) ask, and that's all good as per Geneva convention.
My reply was deleted, my account banned and my will to stay on that platforms eliminated.
Welcome!
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The crazy thing is that you'd think of all the people in the world, the Jews in Israel would understand the importance of compassion and giving other groups of people respect and dignity. As it turns out, the fastest way to make a Nazi is to have someone live through their atrocities.
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somehow this went from defending themselves against terrorist's, to them becoming terrorists as well
They were never defending anything. Their victims just decided to fight back.
