What Would a Fair and Community-Focused Monetization Model on the Fediverse Look Like?
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Something along the lines of a monthly donation model, perhaps with a nominal "pro" system. A badge to showing that you donate and how many years you've been donating (users can disable display of such badges if they want).
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I second something like this, don't make it compulsory but instead something people want to spend money to support.
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Unsubstantiated claim: Any set of rules that aim at distributing money according to some merit can be exploited in a way that those who get the most money are not those providing the most value.
Or less formally: Any game can be cheesed.
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Would love to see an optional monthly subscription to Lemmy where funds are automatically distributed based on how you used Lemmy that month. There would have to be a lot of research on how to avoid exploitation, but Open Collective might have some good examples of how to securely handle funds like that
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Look at what nostr community is doing with zaps, I think it's cool
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Truly fair would be to have corporations pay.the users to allow them to show them advertisements.
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Still learning about the fediverse, but...
What about a simple percentage system so you can donate whatever you want. A large portion goes to the instance that you register with and smaller portions go to Lemmy programmers. Maybe portions can be set aside for parts of the fediverse that we all use like gif/video hosting.
I'd say make the percentages the same across the fediverse so people know what goes where.Personally I'd prefer monthly giving like patreon.
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I mean honestly, why not? If a server admin chargers a $1 per ad the user should get $0.50. Crude example but you get the idea.
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Well depends if we're talking for instance admins, developers or users/mods. Would probably need different models.
Sub.club wasn't successful in offering a content monetization model on the fediverse
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Lot of terrible ideas here, if any of them are implemented lemmy loses a lot if value, donation model works, if a server cant survive itll shutdown and well end up in a better situation since the whole point was to not have centralized servers. Mfs talking about adding ads when this platform barely provides value lol. Like are you serious, at least most platforms with ads developed their own platform and arent just launching someone elses work on a server
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If you want lemmy instances to be better off reduce the load, make your own or join a less popular one, joining a bigger one isn't a good thing (im a hypocrite, im on lemmee)
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A corporation will only pay users to watch ads if it is a way to get them to buy junk that they didn't need or possibly even want. Otherwise the model breaks. Advertising is a scourge, to rely on it in any way does not feel "values-driven" to me.
PS: to be clear, maybe the ad model has merits on pragmatic grounds but, speaking personally, if I ever see an ad here, I am GONE and never coming back.
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Great idea. Backed by some kind of Patreon for FOSS. Which might exist already, as I just learned here: Open Collective
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I agree it feels off, but it's better than what we have now. Users could allow certain companies' ads they feel comfortable viewing.
The additional benefit for companies would be that they would have a direct finger on the pulse of the market. If they make a decision and they see a lot of users abandon their ads, it was probably a bad decision.
The obvious downside is that people that can use the money will be under the influence of big corporations more.
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I think keep it donation based. Perhaps do a Lemmy gold where u can donate to boost a comment/post and said donation is split between content creator community instance etc.
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Instances could run stake pools and tie the two together somehow. Perhaps in this case, your username follows whatever pool you're staking to.
It's a solution look for a problem admittedly. It works better in the case that instances act as retail "clubs" like Costco for example. In that case, stakers to said pool could be authorized to get certain deals on products sold by that instance.
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First sign of crypto and I am out. I would speculate that is true of a lot of people in the Fediverse.
From my perspective, there are only two use cases for crypto 1. Criminal activity 2. Pump and dumps
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Monetizing is what ruins other places.
I like the way my home instance does financial backing through an open model, and that's part of why I chose it.
An ideal is enough contributors to keep the lights on and to reimburse the admins for their time spent in keeping it afloat. Moderation should always be a volunteer position for those that want to support their individual communities.
Any excesses in finance I would hope go towards future running costs (to a point), feature development and then charitable donations in that order. Non-profit on paper and in practice.
This is viable for a small instance. Maybe even larger ones if the users are altruistic enough as a whole.
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Yeah! How dare people try to have wealth that is actually borderless and self-sovereign. Those idiots are scammers! I will own nothing and be happy. Get out of my way, I need to step in line to bow before the Federal reserve (an organization that I fully admit is corrupt to the core and the very root of the issues in our society). I'm actually a Marxist living in a capitalist society. So, I am too cool to worry about the fact that I actually need money. I'll just pretend that I don't need it even though I REALLY do. I'll do whatever I can to piss on viable alternatives to the Fed just because people were degenerate gamblers and got owned by obvious scammers. Sure the fed can take away my money for no reason, inflate the dollar so that my savings are worth less every single day, and do whatever they feel like with my money but that is a good thing because scammers exist in the world....
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