French President Emmanuel Macron announces €100 billion investments in AI
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The cause is societal: the EU thinks that innovation should come top down. By giving established corporations subsidies, and a large administration that steers everyone every step of the way. To make sure nobody does anything out of the ordinary.
The EU doesn't think. A cell of the organism doesn't think in organ matters, an organ doesn't think in cell matters.
The EU is just built this way, it's a union of national governments against anything too mobile or evolutionary in their populations. It's a confederation designed so that there'll never be a federation of the same countries. Evolutionary mechanisms devour bureaucracies. But bureaucracies can strangle them.
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Yep, and that's a biggly problem. If EU AI becomes a threat (or perceived threat) to US economic and other interests (and especially when orange is in charge), they would slap tariffs at those at least. If not forbid export.
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See that bandwagon over there, I am going to jump on it.
But everyone already is on it.
Merde.
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Are you blind? There are so many things suggesting AI is a past thing already.
Most importantly there is no good use for it.
Just like Bitcoin all companies are trying to shoehorn it in shit products and making them shittier.
Eu should not built AI but try to regulate it and protect the environment from it.
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Heya!
Are you blind? There are so many things suggesting AI is a past thing already.
?? Really like what? I must be blind, Deepseek just made GLOBAL headlines, like my own local logan radio station mentioned it on its news the other day!
The Paris AI summit is happening right now as we speak, you can even watch live:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhOrVNAQSMs
It's being held at the Grand Palais which is very fancy
If you're seeing something I'm not feel free to let me know
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Sorry but no.
It’s good when what you are trying to do has been done in the past by thousand of people (thanks to the free training data). But it’s really bad for new use case. After all it's a glorified and expensive auto-complete tool trained on code they parsed. It’s not magic, it’s math.
But you don’t get intelligence, creativity from these tools. It’s math! Math is the least creative domain on earth. Since when being a programmer is just typing portion of code from boilerplate / examples from internet?
It’s the logical thinking, taking into account all the parameters and constraints, breaking problems into piece of code, checking it, testing it, deploying it, supporting it.
Ok, programming goal is to solve a problem. But usually not all the parameters of the problem can be reduced to its mathematical form.
IA are far from being able to do that and the ratio gain/cost is not proven at all. These companies are so committed to AI (in term of money invested) that THEY MUST make you use their AI products, whatever its quality. They even use a marketing term to hide their product bad answer: hallucinations. Hallucination is just a fancy word to not say: totally wrong.
Do you find normal to buy a solution that never produces 100% good results (more around 20% of failure)?
In my industry, this IA trend (pushed mainly from managers not knowing what really is programming and of course "AI") generate a lot of bad quality code from our junior devs. And it's not something i want to push in production.
In fact, a lot of PoC around ML never goes from the R&D phase to the real production. It’s too risky for the business (as human life could be impacted).
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Deepseak did show it could be done cheaply but imagine if you could take their optimisations and throw more power behind it (ie: buy a fuck tone of GPUs that the Chinese dont officially have access to)
Could work, the EU should pursue AI independence else it will continue its slide into irrelevance. Glad France is stepping up to the plate on this
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The EU just doesn't have any companies that can put together something that can compete. CPUs and GPUs have been around for a while and the technical knowledge and patents these companies have gathered is basically insurmountable.
Graphcore is a startup in the UK that has been trying to get into the ai processor market for a few years but even though they got a load of money their chips have not been competitive (if they were able to get any out the door).
Arm could feasibly do it (given they already make the CPU/GPU designs) but their business model is selling the base designs to other companies. If they started to make their own chips then those that buy from ARM (Qualcomm, mediatech...) might look to developing their own risk-V chips
Imo, I think the EU should try and make a company similar in style to what happened with Airbus. Combine a bunch of companies together across the union, give them money and contracts and let them cook. Seems to me the only way to enter this kind of market.
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Yes it would take a lot of effort, the EU certainly has the money but seems content at the moment to throw it at America
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An Airbus style company would be awesome, I'm absolutely certain after Trumps latest round of insanity there's a lot of countries that would like some supply chain diversity with EU chips to ensure China or USA can't rattle them too hard
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This world is hella fucking retarded
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I'm not a big fan of Macron, but in all honesty, "the genie's out of the bottle" and we need some way to protect ourselves from "foreign AI" influences.
As long as European countries stay true to their guidelines, this should just be considered a necessary move.
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But outside of TSMC it looks like just Samsung competing in the space, as you said Intel miles behind and AMD sold off all it’s fabs
Not sure how it is going, but Chinese are also pouring a ton of money into bleeding edge class processes by using an alternative technology than ASML (for obvious reasons). Will try to find the link somebody posted.
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I'd certainly hope for RISC-V. Perhaps now that we have a little bit more of an incentive, we will make some progress.
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Looks like it is comparable to the US Stargate announcement, the money is coming from private companies and going into private investment, which is amazing, I regret not including this in the original post:
Meanwhile, the French financing will include commitments from the United Arab Emirates, American and Canadian investments funds and French companies like telecommunications firms Iliad and Orange, and aerospace and defense group Thales
A few days before France’s AI Action Summit, which kicked off on Monday, the UAE said it would invest between 30 billion euros and 50 billion euros in the construction of a one-gigawatt AI data center in France as part of a campus focused on the technology’s development.
https://www.cnbc.com/2025/02/10/frances-answer-to-stargate-macron-announces-ai-investment.html
