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Exactly. I also had the thought, if you breakdown music composition, it's basically math. Music is math.
Techno is accounting
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The goal of schools is not to prepare you for capitalism. Luckily, they're one of the few institutions that are still concerned with human values beyond money.
You could argue it would be valuable, from a practical sense, to additionally offer classes on personal finance, sure, but it's abhorrent to use music lessons as a mocking point or suggest that somehow the school should teach finance instead of all other subject matters.
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je n’ai pas dit que c’était mal… mais que ça n’a pas de sens (étymologiquement parlant). C’est un mot étonnant pour une flute, on s’imagine un enregistreur.
J'ai toujours pensé la même chose. J'ai changé d'école française à anglaise en cinquième année pis tout à coup les flutes était des "recorders"? Même en anglais je les appellais des flutes jusqu'à là... Étrange
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The chords are easier; ukuleles are tuned like the 4 high strings of a guitar (yes I know that it's actually gCEA but it's functionally the same), and the chords are the same but without the last two strings.
However ukuleles are harder to play for adults because they are way too small. Anything higher than the 8th fret is basically unplayable.
Eh, I played both for a while (never became good, but that's not the point), and I always found Ukulele chords awkward and confusing even on the lower frets, while Guitar came more natural to me. I wouldn't be surprised if that was due to the lack of musical education and professional training though. Oh, and my Ukulele was tuned ADF#H...
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You can pick up a recorder for 20 dollars and they will withstand abuse. Not so a guitar. I agree that it's better musically and maybe pedagogically but it's got some deal breakers.
it's got some deal breakers
No doubt, and being used by a horde of kids is probably the toughest thing instruments have to ensure
I got my acoustic guitar for incredibly cheap 35,-€, so at least price can be overcome. And, reading the thread, it seems that the recorder has spoiled learning/playing an instrument for quite a few people, so one could argue that it's a failed investment, even at a low price point.
Can't say anything on the pedagogical side of things, I chose a job where I don't have to meet people all the time, let alone children.
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Plenty of kids are not ready to handle a guitar
How so? Age wise, motor skills, character, lacking musical education, ...? WDYM?
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If you’re wondering, Why recorders? — there are three reasons:
- They’re portable.
- Recorders in decent enough quality can be cheaply produced, so even low-income children get to play one. Compare that with a guitar where 30$ gets you a piece of wood that detunes as soon as you lay eyes on it. Not great for practicing.
- Recorders have an easily memorizable fingering scheme that allows you to quickly pick up the C Major scale. Compare this with a guitar where you need to remember for each string individually which frets have the notes of the scale.
Answers in Progress did a video on that subject: https://youtu.be/zyZY1dq5BFc
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How so? Age wise, motor skills, character, lacking musical education, ...? WDYM?
Discipline to treat it delicately
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Music is far and away the more worthy subject.
More note worthy even...
I'll see myself out.
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Eh, I played both for a while (never became good, but that's not the point), and I always found Ukulele chords awkward and confusing even on the lower frets, while Guitar came more natural to me. I wouldn't be surprised if that was due to the lack of musical education and professional training though. Oh, and my Ukulele was tuned ADF#H...
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Found the German, lol.
ADF#B is a full tone higher but it doesn't change chord shapes.
I find the chords simple to grasp, but awkward to execute due to how small the neck is.
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Yeah let’s teach 4th graders that read at a 2nd grade level and struggle with multiplication economics, this seems rationale
At the same time we're teaching them the value of coins, we should be teaching them simple budgeting. Only need addition and subtraction for that.
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School should not be for finding hobbies. It's bad enough children are denied agency, but to waste time on hobbies that aren't even relevant to them?
How would you know what career/life/goal you want to pursue if you don’t try it first at school? Is the purpose of school to teach you how to be an automaton working a dead end job? Cause that’s what it sounds like you want
Also describing music purely as a “hobby” is asinine
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I think it's an American thing, maybe? I don't think I ever played the recorder in school. My only experiences with the recorder was as a toy instrument that you'd get from souvenir shops. I didn't know the recorder was supposedly a serious instrument until my early adulthood. Always thought it was a joke toy pretending to be a flute. It was way below the kazoo in my mind.
France, 1980's, we played the recorder thoughtout middle school.
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So you've tried art, and discovered it's not for you. That's still better than not having tried art at all in first place. You at least know where you stand in regards to that question now. ...Or at least I hope so.
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Shit, that's even a Yamaha. They make a pretty decent entry level recorder.
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I never learned an instrument (schools don't teach that here unless its of your own volition) and its not that I'm financially illiterate, I just don't trust anyone with my money. So, I guess knowing how to play a flute or some bullshit like that would be net positive.
Guess I'll keep on whistling while my money slowly becomes worthless.
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Found the German, lol.
ADF#B is a full tone higher but it doesn't change chord shapes.
I find the chords simple to grasp, but awkward to execute due to how small the neck is.
Found the German, lol.
Dammit, I tried so hard to hide it.
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So you've tried art, and discovered it's not for you. That's still better than not having tried art at all in first place. You at least know where you stand in regards to that question now. ...Or at least I hope so.
Not of course that there is such a thing as professional recorder players.
