U.S. tariffs on Mexico to be paused for a month, Trump says

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How????
The cheeto wanted us (México) to be more aggresive as their lower border to prevent migrants from coming over... we agreed to his terms and we got a single month to comply, how is that him getting whipped? He got what he wanted, he bent us over (just like the expresident from the same party in power).
Even worse, this will only encourage him to ask for more things since he can get away with it.

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Sadly other news sources reported it. Dumb move from Mexico that will give the orange bully more power over them and others.

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Canada may hold out longer than you think. "Go fuck yourself Trump." seems to be the prevailing public sentiment.

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No, I guess I should have explored that option as well. The lack of response is still a response. So Trump can still claim to his base" see it's working" and claim it as a win.

I know it's difficult to imagine that in stakes so large, countries economies (hell the world economy) can be manipulated in such a way that no matter what factually and verifiability happens, it can be spun in a way to say it's a win and there's a group of people that take it at its face and says "yay! Keep going!"

Other countries are in a damned if you, damned if you don't situation. As are the rest of the United States citizens that don't support these actions (or can't see them because they are believing the president of the US when he says "we're winning"). The only thing we can do at this point is try to wake up trump supporters and hope that is done in time to affect change.

If not, we are at the mercy of whatever he does. Complaining about it and pointing out how obvious it is, does nothing. Go talk to some people that support him. Families that voted him in and have illegal immigrants in their family are getting a hard dose of that wake up call in their own. But until we get so many people that can't be ignored, nothing will happen. It will become similar to Russia where the state controls the media and everything is a "win", even invading acountry that did nothing to provoke invasion.

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No business is ok with arbitrarily paying more, even if it is predictable. That’s why they built factories in Mexico in the first place, because it was cheaper.

You stopped reading mid sentence apparently. The rest of my sentence in my post was "businesses are okay with that as long as they know its coming and can plan/make changes." Those changes could be moving manufacturing, scaling different product lines, finding substitutions for what those forecasted more-expensive inputs are, etc. The factories in Mexico a response to a predictable rising labor market in the USA. So yes, manufacturers were okay with paying higher costs in the USA temporarily while the Mexican factories were set up or expanded.

Businesses also aren’t a monolith in their preferences,

True, but they largely follow the same trends. Outliers are outliers by definition.

Amazon would happily take 4 years of chaos if it forces many competitors out of business.

If its a sure thing, probably, but with Musk as President Amazon is just as likely to be hurt by the next 4 years. Musk is no fan of Bezos and Musk has a history of taking personal grudges into business dealings. (see Musk suing his own twitter advertising customers)

Similarly musk/Tesla isn’t ready to compete with other car companies (US, EU, or China) actually trying to make EVs, more chaos on his competition is great for him.

Musk has poisoned the previous good name of Tesla among its customers. Tesla opponents weren't buying Tesla before, and now former Tesla proponents aren't either. He's pissing off the countries governments where he is trying to make inroads, and now handling the reigns of government pissing off future possible customers. There is nothing Musk is doing right now that is helping Tesla. He is only hurting them.

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You're missing what I'm saying

They're giving Trump's spin in reporting inadvertently or not

They're not providing context for how much of a change Mexico actually is making

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Delaying something as big as tariffs by a month is not some kind of epic loss.

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Throw out some wild tarrifs and see what happens.

Do you think that is a good way to run the most powerful nation on Earth?

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So say we all

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Is it really dumb? The tariffs hurt both sides. Things will be much more expensive for us, and because they are more expensive, less of Mexican things will be bought. When Mexico uses retaliatory tariffs, same thing happens, bit this time in reverse.

Everyone loses.

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They are reporting Mexico sending 10k troops to border.

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No, but it's what's happening.

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And note it doesn't say additional troops nor note how many are already there

I'm not sure how many are currently there but they've previously had higher numbers. Like in 2019 they sent 15k

https://www.reuters.com/article/world/mexico-says-it-has-deployed-15000-forces-in-the-north-to-halt-us-bound-migrat-idUSKCN1TP2YD/

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When was Mexico refusing to be at the table? There is an open relationship and trade agreements in place already... if Trump wanted to talk to Mexico about anything he could have done so with zero barriers

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This isn't a normal rational thing. This is Trump using schoolyard bully tactics. Mexico went the appeasement route. Trump doesn't care about anyone respecting the US, he cares what he can get them to do for him.

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Especially with an election on the horizon. Any party campaigning on capitulation is going to be radioactive to most voters.

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Yes, I know how kids act... the point is that he is cutting the USA's nose to spite its face... so not sure how is that any "win" for the USA...

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I knew Mexico and Canada would blink first

What are you talking about? Mexican president always signalled that her country is ready to cooperate to fight cartels.

It is Trump who blinked - he delayed tarrifs he wanted to intruduce to appease his fascist voter base.

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What the fuck is your point? Who are you claiming he's sucking off?

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But politicians are just gonna campaign on fighting against Trump just to get votes, and then turn around and capitulate anyway.

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U.S. tariffs on Mexico to be paused for a month, Trump says