Bluesky now has 30 million users.

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Oh interesting, thanks! I figured out the hashtaga bit but a lot of fun popped up without the hashtaga etc.

I suppose I'll just keep muddling along and figure something that works for me while trying to be a net positive influence!

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Jack Dorsey has no involvement in Bluesky. He doesnt even have a Bluesky account.

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When Bluesky was first launched in February 2023, it was an invite-only beta that required an invite code to register. Several prominent influencers and celebrities, including Breadtuber Twitch streamers were given referral codes to share with their audience. As a result, these codes were kept within these leftist spheres. So the user base is mainly Left wing. All I'm doing is calling spade a spade.

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The average person doesn't care about that and large scale development cost money. It doesn't really bother me either if it's being run respectfully and I'll give them the benefit of the doubt until it's not.

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Oh it's very left, the whole open web seems to lean that way. I just find it silly and not much different from what they claim right wing platforms to be. When I go out into the world social spaces aren't left or right and for the most part we all get a long cordially. Bad eggs notwithstanding.

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The right to take legal action for harm done is imperative. It's importance is diminished if conflated with a legitimate business risk (like research and development). It should be illegal to deny it.

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I agree. But we weren't discussing hypotheticals, we were discussing reality.

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Whenever I see how they keep getting brought up, I'm always reminded of that Dilbert ep about how people just fall for blue logos that are easy on the eyes. They don't even have to know what it is... just the fact that the stupid logo is blue is enough. lol

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By "business risk", they just mean bad for the business, ethics aside

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I agree with you, the number/the rise of users on such platforms makes me feel sick. There literally is a built, proven, & running alternative. The difference is what, "the onboarding process" which instance to choose if you wanna post & vote?

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You're not thinking evil enough, honestly. Two examples off the top of my head, each being fairly innocent mistakes: If you enter your phone number for 2FA, it's not going to be public-facing. It's their responsibility to keep that information private from internal and external threats. Ok, so what if it leaks... right? Oh, it turns out the hacker SIM swapped your phone number for the 2FA, and did a password reset on your account via support chat. Still no big deal, its just social media... Except you've been giving updates to all your patreon backers on your project that's shipping soon. It suddenly vanishes off the internet, replaced with a crypto scheme, and all your supporters just flooded your bank with chargebacks. Your attempts at getting your account back are met with silence and your supporters are now furious. Was any of that your fault? No. You get $100.

Let's try another example: Bounty programs are used by companies to collect bugs and other possibly exploits so they can be fixed. "Too expensive, nobody will know if there's a bug anyway." So the app on Google Play store gets installed by 30 million users with a critical flaw... if a very specific image is opened in it, the phone bricks. All the news sites cover the bug, pushing the image to the front page. You open the app and... Your expensive phone just died. Were you at fault for that? No. You get to join the arbitration group and get an individual settlement of $12.

Think more evil. Don't stick with the "I have nothing to lose" because you almost always have something to lose. The fact these terms were even thought of and written means you do have a financial investment in the platform.

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You have nothing to hide. Just sign away all your rights.

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And we should just accept that?

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While I understand that, I'm in America. My first priority has to be getting people off of Twitter.

Would I prefer open source, non-profit software? 100%. It's the smarter and better choice for so many reasons.

But if Bluesky is going to gain critical mass, I'm not going to fight it. I'm having a hard enough time getting people off Twitter. I've written the media address of environments I'm familiar with asking them to organize a move, and I mentioned both Bluesky and Mastodon.

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Doesn't matter if you should or not. Point is you accept it or you don't use any service whatsoever.

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What do you think the closed beta was for? It was so they can get in and get on the moderator roster

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No, I believe the argument they're making is if someone else posts your private information on BlueSky (think Kiwifarms doxxing gay people and sending that info to Christian hate groups), and BlueSky moderation doesn't take action against the account posting the info, and then somebody uses that information to find and attack you, then BlueSky is culpable in the attack because they could've done something, but didn't.

A better example, I think, would be the recent issue with known transphobe Jesse Singal and his followers, who came to BlueSky around a month ago and immediately began posting bigotry and false info. When reported to the moderation team, they did nothing about it (he actually got banned by the auto-mod and then manually unbanned during that period, but that's another story). If he were to do something like my example, posting a trans person's private information online and telling his followers to harass them, and BlueSky did nothing to remove the posts or his account, then they'd be legally culpable for enabling anything that might happen to you. But under arbitration, you can't sue them for it.

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Looks like there's a viable alternative here.

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Really? Who are you going to sue here? And how much money do you think you can sue them for?

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Ah, THAT explaination at least has legs. All these other responses I'm getting are these abstract "mouse trap if everything goes exactly like this", sort of explainations.

Although, I still don't think financial recouperation is the path I'd take. I would be pressing legal charges. Like, criminal acts go to prison type charges.

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Bluesky now has 30 million users.