10 killed in school shooting in Sweden

[toes@ani.social]

I'm a little sad that the surprising part about this was that it's not in America.

[iceblade02@lemmy.world]

The reuters article is rather sparse, CNN has a more in depth one.

This is the worst mass shooting in Swedish history to date.

Minister of State Ulf Kristersson held a press conference a few hours ago, and the King has issued a statement also.

It's honestly quite draining with the constantly escalating violence. Many here didn't initially react or realize the magnitude when the initial news hit after lunch citing five people shot.

Right now though one of our most prolific Swedish online forums (flashback) is down due to excessive traffic, and last I saw the news have blown up on mainstream platforms too.

[naiboftabr@infosec.pub]

When I look at history, it seems the only times that the violence has calmed down are the periods following some immense, extended, extreme violence, to the point that everyone left living is sick and tired of it and says "no more".

And that... that is deeply frightening in the present context.

[teslasaur@lemmy.world]

What does skin color have to with it being classified as terror crime or not? This isn't America.

This is verbatim what the police press officer said

Det finns nu inga misstankar om att det handlar om ett terrorbrott, och polisen tror att mannen har agerat på egen hand, även om man inte utesluter fler med koppling till dådet, säger Roberto Eid Forest.

[railcar8095@lemm.ee]

That statement verbatim does less than you probably expected in clarifying.

[thisisbutaname@discuss.tchncs.de]

Well, maybe hate crime.

I understand not jumping to conclusions, but a white man shooting up a school for immigrants kinda sounds like a duck

[psmgx@lemmy.world]

Propaganda machine go brrrrrrrrrr

[teslasaur@lemmy.world]

While it definitely appears to be a hate crime, i just cant emphasize how different racial relationships are in Sweden compared to USA.

We didn't have a constitution that said people are free, whilst justifying slaves by saying they weren't human, since they were "black"

What we have are cultures that completely clash in modern times during to many, many reasons.

Hate crime, likely, but we don't know. Because Swedish authorities doesn't publicize such info out of concerns of privacy for potentially innocent adjacent.

Grotuesquely enough one tabloid called the suspects father and started asking "why he did it". He hadn't even heard of the crime on the news yet. Its fucking disgusting what they did.

Terrorism, not likely. And saying anything else while the bodies were still warm would have been basis for dismissal as press officer.

[wharrgarbl@lemmy.world]

Thank you for providing context for Sweden, where this happened, for the fuckers who think USA is global.

[peregrin5@lemm.ee]

So that's why purge.

[majorllama@lemmy.world]

What's the famous quote? "Those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it."

I think there is a certain accuracy to that statement, but I feel it also fails to recognize the human element involved. We know history now. The average person today knows far more than anyone in the past knew about history ever and yet ... We continue to make the same mistakes as a species.

Some people just want to make change regardless of direction. We feel restless when things are going too well for too long. Even if it's bad change we seek change regardless.

[flamingo_pinyata@sopuli.xyz]

immense, extended, extreme violence

It's been 80 years since the last round of immense, extended, extreme violence. Those who remember and their children have died, even their grandchildren are old. Here we go again...

[thisisbutaname@discuss.tchncs.de]

For context, I'm from Italy. I'm just worried about the kind of violence directed specifically towards anyone "different", whether it's about skin color, place of origin or anything else

[frigidaphelion@lemmy.world]

Hey some of us americans arent fucking at all so I resent this statement

[moose@moose.best]

Grotuesquely enough one tabloid called the suspects father and started asking "why he did it". He hadn't even heard of the crime on the news yet.

Jesus christ, imagine finding out your son is the perpetuator of a horrific shooting and is dead from a tabloid reporter. I have way more sympathy for the families of the actual victims but it's still awful for the father.

[someone@lemmy.ca]

What's going on in Sweden? Are they trying to takeover the market on gun violence while the Americans are busy ruining their country?

[danitos@reddthat.com]

I think that's the point. A bit of a reality check for those people who believe they know how things work in other countries based on their very superficial POV, despite failing at the basics.

[anamethatisnt@lemmy.world]

Shooter had a hunting license and used his own hunting weapon for the attack. He had no known affiliations with criminals and had no criminal records of his own. He had no income during 2023 according to his tax statements.

Source https://www.svt.se/nyheter/inrikes/det-har-vet-vi-om-misstankte-garningsmannen-i-orebro

[teslasaur@lemmy.world]

Shootings against civilians like this are very rare. The immigrant gangs however hire 15 years old trigger men, pay 10 000 dollars per kill. They usually only go for other gang members. Except when they use explosives.

30 explosions just in January due to a gang war.

The gang leaders are in Iran and lead from a distance. Iran doesn't help.

[scott_of_the_arctic@lemmy.world]

I knew a guy who died in a car wreck in northern Norway and the picture of the wreck was up on the front page of the paper before his mother was notified. She found out by opening the website and seeing her sons car.